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So when he DM’d me to say that he had “a hell of a story”—promising “one-time pads! 8-bit computers! Flight attendants smuggling floppies full of random numbers into South Africa!”—I responded.

Ha ha ha. Yes, that was literally my very short pitch to Steven about Tim Jenkin's story!

The actual DM: "I think this has the makings of a hell of a story: https://blog.jgc.org/2024/09/cracking-old-zip-file-to-help-o... If you want I can connect you with Tim Jenkin. One time pads! 8-bit computers! Flights attendants smuggling floppies full of random numbers into South Africa!"

Did you end up discovering the original password to the zip file? (was it, as I'd hope, `TIMBOBIMBO` ?)

No, I did not. I threw quite a lot of compute power at it using bkcrack (CPU) and hashcat (GPU) but never found out what it was. It was definitely not TIMBOBIMBO, sadly!

I also ended up sponsoring the bkcrack project because the maintainer added a new option for me: https://github.com/kimci86/bkcrack/pull/126

How much was "quite a lot"?

I did a pass with bkcrack. The password is over 13 char.

bkcrack.exe -k 98e0f009 48a0b11a c70f8499 -r 1..18 ?p bkcrack 1.7.0 - 2024-05-26 [11:07:33] Recovering password length 0-6... length 7... length 8... length 9... length 10... length 11... length 12... length 13...

I can tell you it's over 14 ?p, and over 16 ?u?d, and over 17 ?u.

where's the original encrypted zip for this?

If you want to try to crack the password you don't need the ZIP file. Just the key (which you can see in the bkcrack command above).

Though, you could argue it was a 16 bit computer, of course :)

(It was an 8088, essentially an 8086 with an 8 bit data bus, but 16bit registers and 20bit address bus).

At this point in time (meaning 2024) bits for computers are a word to indicate a culture rather than the technical merits of a computer.

In which case it’s definitely a 16 bit computer; it was just a cheap 8086 (the cheapness achieved through the memory bus), and it was part of the start of the 16 bit era. From the _user’s_ point of view it was basically a 16 bit computer.

This was a great read, thank you for inspiring it! I also did not realize it was you who led the petition for the UK to apologize to Turing, what an achievement.

You're quoted at the end as saying, "The code itself is a historical document". That sort of electrified me as I began thinking about what other historical code is out there in need of preservation. I'm fascinated with stuff like this, toolkits meant to be used in the field with little room for incremental development. Tracking this kind of stuff down seems like a fun hobby.

I didn't know it was you who led the charge for the apology to Turing. Thank you!

This is such a fabulous story!! Thank you, good Sir, for bringing it to light!! <3

The story reads like _The Cuckoo's Egg_ in a way. Spies, intrigue, covert comms, action, revolution!

I loved that the code is still around, and works.

Kudos!!

I remember the activist campaigns and the movie Cry Freedom about Steve Biko, another SA activist, had a significant impact on my worldview growing up. As revolutions and coups go it was clearly a success. I'd wonder how much of a role their electronic opsec played in it.

I think it was the ANC and its activists organizing the coalition of other countries to sanction and isolate the government that ultimately caused it to yield power, which is the necessary condition for any revolution- it requires allies to be in place to support it for when it succeeds. On the ground, you only really need a few dozen people to seize some buildings and bank accounts, it's coordinating the external trade links to keep everyone paid and in their jobs while the top of the regime changes to new hands that's difficult. The opsec for that ground force just has to get most of them to their X day, where they're going to take casulties anyway.

In the case of SA, it seemed like a matter of convincing other countries to do nothing, by persuading the world the govt were just racist villains, and convincing the National Party in government that nobody would intervene to save them if there were a civil revolt. That part was organized in plain view. Opsec is interesting and mysterious, but often less important than the stories we tell about it afterwards.

> it's coordinating the external trade links to keep everyone paid and in their jobs while the top of the regime changes to new hands that's difficult.

That's actually a really good insight. It explains why quite a few successful revolutions – e.g. Russia and China – happened in countries _without_ an established administrative bureaucracy, and patted themselves on the based on their apparent competence in building one.

the view of coups as one faction replacing another is quite a rabbit hole, but it's a political analysis that has some experimental and predictive power. there has to be guarantor or benefactor on the other side of it. in this view, leaders are figureheads accountable to the small essential coalition who keeps them there. the idea of secret cabals orchestrating these things is usually backwards, where a revolutionary (or politician) is really just an entrepreneurial dealmaker between elite factions.

it's essentially demesquita's "logic of political survival," also distilled into the well made cartoon, "rules for rulers" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

> That's actually a really good insight. It explains why quite a few successful revolutions – e.g. Russia and China – happened in countries _without_ an established administrative bureaucracy

Erm.... Whut? China was (and is) _the_ example of a country held together by a civil bureaucracy. Ditto for Russia.

China literally invented bureaucracy 3000 years ago. It’s the cornerstone of Chinese civilization.

They invented inventing 5000 years ago

I remember traveling to the US from South Africa when I was 14 in 1990 and my dad renting Cry Freedom on VHS so we could watch it, since it was banned in South Africa. The long roll of peoples' names and how they died "accidentally" or "falling from window" in prison at the end was haunting and the experience of watching it has stayed vividly with me ever since.

It's hard to stress how normal _anything_ can seem when you grow up with it. I often wonder whether, if we'd stayed (we moved to the US permanently in 1992) and if apartheid had continued, whether I'd have woken up to the reality of what was going on and become more politically active in my college years. I have no confidence my sense of right and wrong would have been strong enough to escape the stifling blanket feeling of "Well, yes, it's not right, but let's not go tooooo crazy" that pervaded political feeling in those days.

Thanks for doing this, JGC. (And now that I think of it, you might enjoy the historical spelunking in the "Georg Nees" entries on my blog at zellyn.com. Code archeology is tremendously satisfying, and getting an email from one of his sons out of the blue was a delight!)

I watched the movie shortly before going to Lesotho (the enclave country Donald Woods and his family escaped to) and crossing the border into "Transkei" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan) at the same bridge he entered Lesotho.

To be honest, I was prepared to see all white South Africans as evil oppressors, and it took me a while to see that there was a spectrum -- many of whom I met -- from oppressors to opportunists to passive enablers to freedom/justice fighters.

One of my distant relatives in South Africa was decidedly racist, but mourned how his son had gone from playing with the children of black farmworkers to, after a stint in the South African Defence Forces, being a vicious white supremacist.

Interesting how the PKZIP password-protected compressed file is now easily decrypted in <5 minutes, but the original one-time pad is still as mathematically robust as ever.

We could have had a very different history if they'd used DES or RC2 for encryption!

One time pads used properly are theoretically perfectly unbreakable. The problem is making sure no one ever uses the same 'pad'/keystream twice, that your pad generation is actually random, and that the pads never fall into the hands of your adversaries. (or if they do you've been diligent about completely destroying the used pads and the other end of your communications doesn't use the captured set of pads) They're just not very good at anything other than point to point secret passing and require a real world connection to distribute.

So much of symmetric key cryptography is just trying to find creative ways of creating and recreating 'one time pads' so we can distribute the key material instead of the pads themselves.

> that your pad generation is actually random

The one thing that stood out to me with the original blog post and a quick glance at the code was that it appeared as if the pad was certainly not actually random.

Could anyone that has actually understood it a bit more confirm or reject this?

Edit: It seems that the random generation can be found starting here https://github.com/Vulacode/RANDOM/blob/d6a1a1d694b22e6a115b... With three methods, one (RAND2) seems to use the basic interpreter rng more or less directly and the other two seem to be fairly simple prngs seeded from the basic interpreter's rng.

I don't actually know what the state of basic interpreter rngs was in the early '80s but I would be fairly surprised if they're anything that is secure.

At the time PRNG was probably good enough. I wouldn't want to go up against the NSA today using the same entropy source but against South Africa decades ago it was probably good enough. Even knowing what PRNG source the original noise came from it'd take a hell of a lot of guess and check with cribs to come close to guessing the seed for the PRNG. That would be my first crack at breaking a OTP I knew was generated with a particular PRNG at least as a casual student of the craft. Generate huge amount of noise for the possible seeds and see if any names like "Mandela" or other known leaders suddenly pops out of intercepted messages starting at different points in the noise stream (and see if the rest of the message makes any sense when that does happen).

If the PRNG is good enough then shipping floppies full of PRNG output is very much unnecessary. Simply send the seeds used to initialize the PRNG thereby fitting many (~180k of them on a 720kb floppy) seeds on one floppy and save your couriers a lot of risk.

Encode the seed in the arrangement of a deck of cards... shuffle to delete.

The card deck can be the key and the encryption mechanism too with Solitare. It's not secure for longer messages but it should be sufficient for short messages. It's a delicate method though because if you mess up it can be difficult to impossible to recover the proper state of the deck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitaire_(cipher)

You can already fit huge amounts of text onto a single floppy. Uncompressed it's around 1.4 million characters.

That is a method though and it's basically what stream ciphers are doing, translating a key into a random stream that's then applies to the plaintext. One benefit of the true OTP though is you don't have to transfer the software and ensure it's generating the same key stream on both ends.

The problem is that, if you do this, you're not using a one time pad anymore. You're using a stream cipher.

The difference is in the nature of the security guarantees. Almost every cryptographic primitive is "computationally secure", which means the best-known attack is to try every key, and that would take beyond the heat death of the universe. One-time pads have "information-theoretical security", which is that even if you try every possible key, you don't learn the contents of the message, because every possible message has a corresponding decryption key that will produce it from the ciphertext you are trying to break.

The reason why this is the case is because the size of the message space is equal to the size of the key space. In every other cryptosystem, you have a key space that is much smaller than the message space - say, 256 bit AES keys, or 512 bit SHA-2 hashes, for messages that can have many billions of bits in them. It's unlikely for something that wasn't the key to happen to decrypt to a valid-looking message under this scenario. But with a one-time pad, you are actually brute-forcing the message space by brute-forcing the key space. Even if you knew the hash of the plaintext, it wouldn't help. You'd just be brute-forcing whatever hash you used to find collisions.

This property goes away if you start repeating key stream bits by any deterministic process. Hence why just sending a PRNG seed is a bad one-time pad. This is also the difference between /dev/random and /dev/urandom. Linux generates randomness from a PRNG, but it's seeded by unpredictable hardware events and other sources of entropy, and there's a bunch of logic to estimate how much entropy is available. /dev/random specifically blocks until that estimate is positive, so that one-time pads and the like don't repeat bits. (In fact, this is basically the only time you should be using /dev/random! /dev/urandom is perfectly acceptable for all other cryptographic use cases!)

If you generate your OTP beforehand with a PRNG, it's also a stream cipher with extra steps. The real key space is the PRNG seed space, not the size of the key you shipped. Expanding a small key into a big one doesn't make it an OTP - an OTP needs to be actually random.

The difficult of stream ciphers is generating good noise 100% predictably. With a one time pad generation you don't need to be able to reliably recreate good noise from the key.

The generator used at the time in BASIC seems to have reseeded the PRNG automatically based on processor time and the checksum of the last block generated by the previous seed so you'd have to use some other source of randomness because you couldn't control that on disparate machines even if you changed the clock on the decoding machine to exactly match the encoding machine at the time of generation.

Instead of just using a statistically useful rand the creator of this would have had to create their own implementation of a stream cipher and that's trusting the NSA hasn't backdoored all of them which was a fear at the time. We're honestly not certain still, though the times that people were most paranoid about like the DES standard it turns out they were actually improving the algorithms resilience.

The Linux random devices no longer work the way you describe, either. random blocks until there's enough entropy to consider the PRNG output fully random, then never blocks. urandom simply never blocks, even if there's absolutely no entropy yet and every copy of your device produces the same random stream.

> Could anyone that has actually understood it a bit more confirm or reject this?

In BASIC, the word "RANDOMIZE" sets the seed for the RND function, and you'll find it's initially dependant on time (including the typing speed of the user):

https://github.com/Vulacode/RANDOM/blob/main/RANDOM.BAS#L295

It then is reinitialised periodically by mixing in run time (which is highly variable due to microprocessor limitations) and checksums of previous parts of the stream:

https://github.com/Vulacode/RANDOM/blob/main/RANDOM.BAS#L319

The RAND[123] appears to be Bennett Fox's Algorithm 647, which was designed for simulation purposes (statistical randomness), and is based on Lewis-Goodman-Miller's construction from 1969, so it had a great deal of scrutiny.

I think this would have been state of the art in the late 1980s.

South Africa did buy at least some of Crypto AGs backdoored products, not sure when though.

You know it's _proper_ vintage crypto code because it uses the now very unfashionable word 'encipher'.

Funny but also thought-provoking! When did the verb "encipher" give way to "encrypt," and why? I might enjoy reading a well-researched piece on that subject.

I don't know why but here's when: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=encipher%2Cenc...

Wow. Apparently that's when AES and Triple DES were introduced, which can't be coincidental.

Yeah... Data Encryption Standard published in the late '70s, and given its adoption, I assume solidified the use of 'encryption' in this context.

So basically encipher was never used in the context of the web. And the web is what made encrypt popular separate from encipher. It does look like maybe encipher was possibly going to take off but encrypt stepped on its head.

Interestingly, the basis of web encryption does use the term "encipherment" -- the `KeyUsage` field of X.509 certificates has `keyEncipherment` and `dataEncipherment` flags.

An interesting data point is that Kahn's The codebreakers, from 1967, uses "encipher" everywhere except for various US goverment agency quotes, which use "encrypt."

Interestingly enough we still say “ciphertext” to describe the encrypted “cleartext”.

Why is it unfashionable? I quite like it.

I've no idea why it died out, but it certainly seems to have.

I remember reading in Bruce Schneier's Applied Cryptography that in some cultures "encrypt" refers to the process of entombing bodies for burial and that "encipher" did not have that baggage.

Similar connotation to "decrypt" which would be exhumation.

For example in Spanish, there's been always a fight between using "cifrar" instead of "encriptar". I like "cifrar" a bit more, but it's true that we've always had the prefix "cripto-" for hidden or mysterious things. Anyway, the difference is "cifra" is the Latin root for "digit", and "kryptos" is the Greek root for "hidden".

What comes to my mind is that decipher has a well established common meaning, but decrypt just means "dis-encrypt".

Traditionally, encode meant to use one word/symbol to represent another, while encipher meant to transform one (usually mathematically) into another.

For example, "Tora, Tora, Tora" was a code that had no intrinsic meaning, but was the signal to proceed with the Pearl Harbor attack. No way to reverse that.

Meanwhile, "THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG" can be transformed with a Caesar cipher to "QEB NRFZH YOLTK CLU GRJMP LSBO QEB IXWV ALD". It can easily be reversed.

A longer version is here

https://github.com/Vulacode/Articles/blob/main/Talking%20To%...

This article (and a lot of the other content on that site) goes into a lot more depth on Operation Vula:

https://omalley.nelsonmandela.org/index.php/site/q/03lv03445...

>Working in the woodshop, he crafted mockups of the large keys that could unlock the prison doors.

I got to here before realising this is the same guy portrayed by Daniel Radcliffe in Escape From Pretoria. Great film.

Maybe in the future we can also see the code that ended democracy. (The FB source code).

Perhaps the only successful counterxample to "don't roll your own crypto!"

Why does a password-protected zip file reveal a list of the files within lol?

If I'm understanding this right, we'd have been hosed if the files had been TARd first?

And then encrypted? Not sure, the known structure of tar (or zip) can help with decryption.

[edit] ...

This is addressed in the article. In fact the zip contained a zip and this helped!

> He realized the zip file contained another zip file, and that since all he needed was the right original text for a specific part of the scrambled text, his best chance was using the first file name mentioned in the zip within the zip.

We need to show this "code" to Israel...

This is paywalled; how can I read it?

Most paywalled articles on HN will have an archive.is link in the comments, pvg posted one here.

Thank you!

https://archive.is/yK8Jb

The tech side of this is really cool but I'd also like to read more about the non-tech stuff. I wonder if the sympathetic Dutch flight attendant is still alive or the guys who actually carried the Trojan horse books to Mandela.

What an amazing story!

Coincidentally I was reading this story yesterday:

https://www.londonrecruits.org.uk/index.php/items-received-s...

about the “London Recruits” in the 70s and 80s who smuggled books, leaflets, etc into apartheid SA on behalf of the ANC, doing so in such secrecy they didn’t know each others identity until 29 years after the apartheid regime fell.

Joy Leman, one of the recruits, was my late father-in-law’s colleague.

She is alive and hearing her recollections is super cool. If you follow the link to the short documentary I mentioned in the column you will see her then and now.

I think it was the fishing trip with Mandela and then-Prime Minister F.W. de Klerk in 1990 that ended apartheid. Specifically when one of de Klerk's people got a hook in his hand, and a Mandela person cleaned and bandaged it. After that trip Apartheid was finally broken.

That might have been the symbolic last drop that made the bucket overflow.

Sometimes all it takes is for the right people to see at the right time that their opponent bleeds just the same red blood as they do.

What actually ended apartheid was international pressure and the white government's fear of a civil war. Economically isolated and vastly outnumbered, the apartheid government would have been completely removed from the country and had their property seized.

My understanding is Mandela was a respected leader who was willing to play ball and facilitate a peaceful transition where the white leadership got to keep all their property. That's why there's still massive economic inequality in SA today. Not to say Mandela wasn't admirable or that he didn't suffer, but it was a conscious choice to avoid outright military conflict at the cost of preserving an implicit racial hierarchy.

The existence of a viable ANC was arguably pretty important to the international pressure, though. Absent a viable opposition, you probably do not _want_ to exert _too_ much pressure on a rogue state, however nasty, because its only response is to either go full autarky, or collapse into complete chaos.

Take North Korea, say, another extremely nasty rogue nuclear-armed state. Even if there was a level of pressure that the international community could put on North Korea that would collapse it (it's already pretty far down the 'autarky' route), you can see that countries would be unwilling to go quite _that_ far, because there's no viable opposition and it would likely collapse in a very dangerous and ugly way.

You don't even need to use hypothetical examples. Libya, Iraq, arguably Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia.

Though to be fair none of these had happened prior to apartheid.

While it certainly involved a lot of people doing the right thing, that peaceful transition was absolutely incredible and I really do think that's why non-South Africans look on Mandela so fondly. If you'd told me everything about the Apartheid right up until its collapse and then said "Ok, the ANC basically win, gain power, what do you think happens?", I'd struggle to think of any scenario where there wasn't incredible bloodshed or upheaval to the point of ruining lives beyond measure. There was so much bad blood. You'd assume that at least the people who were in charge, the people who ran the show, surely would've saw a grim end. Not even property seizures? . Somehow, Mandela led an effort that just rose above that. He probably prevented a lot of pain just by not giving into such things.

To me, the peaceful transition is the achievement. It is the amazing part of it.

Does poverty not also ruin lives? There's room for people to disagree about the specifics but the lack of widespread wealth redistribution has certainly killed a lot of people as well, it's just easier to ignore than a war.

South Africa does have wealth distribution policies in the form of requiring all companies that do business with the state or which need licences (like mines or telecoms) to have a minimum number of black ownership and black employees.

South Africa also has affirmative action.

In fact, there are more race based laws in South Africa currently than during Apartheid.

https://freemarketfoundation.com/race-law-in-south-africa-30...

Now maybe you're talking about violent wealth redistribution. That generally doesn't work. It results in collapse and everyone gets poorer.

Zimbabwe bring the prime most recent example.

The current President also benefitted heavily from BEE as he was a close personal friend of Mandela. Made hundreds of millions.

If you say that you are going to take large amounts of other people's assets, there is no way to run that process and not have huge amounts of corruption.

The problem has been: very high crime, heavily mismanaged infrastructure (Eskom is collapsing due to corruption, ANC politicians were taking tons of money from contracts), no investment in education, and so a population with no skills. I am not sure what wealth redistribution fixes...it has been tried repeatedly. It is like people thinking that a $1m loan from your father turns you into a different person...no, most people will end up wasting that money too.

He essentially preserved the economic/racial balance of apartheid, while he and the people around him became the new insiders. He started hanging out with the Clintons and giving diamonds to Naomi Campbell.

> To me, the peaceful transition is the achievement. It is the amazing part of it.

Apartheid was "peaceful" enough. The problem is the lack of "transition." The same people are still living in the shacks their parents lived in.

> that's why non-South Africans look on Mandela so fondly.

Non-South Africans had a lot of cognitive dissonance because they did business with South Africa and they didn't like what that said about themselves morally. The end of Apartheid gave them the license to continue that business guilt-free. It's like how sharecropping debt peonage to the same plantations that people were enslaved in and the leasing of convicts who had been sentenced to decade-long sentences for the crime of vagrancy let Americans feel better about how much they benefited from slavery.

There is a lot of inaccuracies here (not only in your post but I am replying to stuff above):

First, there was significant pressure on de Klerk from Western governments. Thatcher told him to release Mandela, for example. The reason she did not support sanctions is because they would likely harm South Africans for no reason...this was justified by later events. As pressure on de Klerk would have made it a lot harder to negotiate with Mandela freely.

Two, de Klerk became leader and his first action was to try to form a path to reconciliation. Mandela played his part by abandoning terrorism (I am not sure why this is disputed...this is what Mandela said about himself). de Klerk's position was, however, not particularly easy because whilst everyone acknowledged that the system had to change, it wasn't clear how to get to that point.

Three, the article implies all white South Africans were racist...this is not true. This assumption is not why apartheid happened either. de Klerk was not Botha. The US experience dominates the world, the assumption that everyone in the NP was racist is not accurate...let alone saying everyone of a certain race must have been racist.

Four, there has been massive upheaval. The economy of South Africa has collapsed, and the ANC did seize property under the auspices of BEE. Large companies were told they had to hand shares to ANC members or they would be shut down, these companies then took out loans to buy back their shares. The current President was a friend of Mandela, union leader, he was then gifted hundreds of millions in shares...that is how he became wealthy (and, if you can believe it, he is the "anti-corruption" guy).

Five, the reason there wasn't bloodshed because there was a transitional period. This was agreed by both parties, this is why Mandela wins plaudits for recognizing that NP had legitimate concerns that had to be taken into account to move forward. But...this still hasn't stopped the country collapsing.

Six, the argument that there must still be racism because of economic inequality is a uniquely US take. The ANC expropriated wealth en masse, the majority went to party insiders, and there has been almost no interest in serious economic policy-making because...the country is majority black, and the ANC are the black party. The reason people are poor is because there is no education and so they have no skills, crime is also out of control...this doesn't have anything to do with someone else not being poor (and btw, almost everyone in South Africa is now poor, the currency has collapsed, everything has collapsed, there is so much corruption that electricity cuts frequently...yes, those white people again though...this is why Malema is popular).

Seven, it was reasonable for de Klerk to be wary. What happened to Rhodesia? Everyone has this idea that everything would be fine, just trust Mandela...okay, there is a country next door where you saw whites being slaughtered en masse when Zanu-PF took power. The country has still been ruined, but that didn't happen at least.

That's not why there's massive income inequality in South Africa. LOL.

> What actually ended apartheid was international pressure

There wasn't any international pressure. There was a withdrawal of the continual and embarrassing support from Britain and the US, the only people other than Israel who hadn't been overly troubled by Apartheid. First from Britain, because as bad as she was, Thatcher was nauseated by Apartheid, then from the US who would have had to actively intervene (as they are right now in a similar context) in order to preserve Apartheid. This was only 25 years after the US had ended its own legal Apartheid.

The US political class was largely indifferent to Apartheid (aside from periodic expressions of mild disapproval of both sides and condemnation of Communist-backed terrorism), so when they saw how the wind was blowing within SA ("fear of a civil war"), and that individual domestic politicians could be damaged or gain politically through their actions towards SA, the US supported the "coup" (as always) so they could keep doing business without interruption.

So I'd instead say popular pressure among citizens of the US and Britain against their own politicians, and the resulting withdrawal of Anglo-American support. Everything else but "international pressure" I agree with totally.

“ as they are right now in a similar context” You can be more direct about Israel’s treatment of Palestinians! All it takes for evil to succeed ….

There's no similar context because the Apartheid system that existed in South Africa has no resemblance to today's Israel.

In particular:

- There's no racial segregation laws; an Arab-Israeli can travel anywhere a Jewish-Israeli can. In fact, Arabic is an officially recognized language by the state of Israel, and throughout the country, every public service has signs in Arabic alongside Hebrew.

- Jews are not a minority in Israel, they comprise 78% of the population.

> Arab-Israeli can travel anywhere …

That is simply not true. E.g. The city of Hebron is segregated by religion - see https://youtu.be/Z42HhaywhGQ?si=bTBhEFi5lgBJQX9v

> There's no similar context because the Apartheid system that existed in South Africa has no resemblance to today's Israel.

According to Human Rights Watch[1], Amnesty International[2], and many other human rights organizations, the regime in Israel today is in fact recognized as a system of apartheid. Mandela himself shown a lot of solidarity to the palestinian cause[3].

[1] https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/isra...

[2] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/research/2022/02/qa-israel...

[3] https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/nelson-mandela-30-years-p...

So, believe biased organizations or the dictionary. I'll go with the dictionary.

I disagree with how this post was downvoted so heavily – this in an illustrative moment of rapprochement near the end of apartheid; saying it ended apartheid was a figure of speech, of course it didn't end apartheid in and of itself. It's as reasonable as saying that the fall of the Berlin Wall ended the Cold War.

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