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It's true that the complexity of these kinda projects are enormous, but considering chrome/webkit's monopoly in the browser space, I feel we should always welcome and appreciate alternative efforts...regardless of the project's outcome.

P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :)

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Isn't this how generative models are supposed to be used? Instead of generating a sub-par (no pun intended) logo myself, I get a model to build one for me. It is the same as using any computer software to achieve the goal - human is providing the inputs and hardware and software are generating the output.

Instead of generating a sub-par (no pun intended) logo myself, you should PAY to someone to make a logo, instead of stealing work from other people.

I think, at this stage, logo is the least important piece in all this.

That's the point. And if the maintainers still want to consider this, I feel that should be done right.

It's open-source. Why don't you contribute a logo or open an issue if you feel so strongly about it?

Using AI to generate a logo is no more stealing than asking a designer to make a logo. A designer will pull ideas from prior art.

That said, can't AI iteratively edit a picture? Then it can accumulate lots of input and one couldn't say input was small.

It's a glossy 3D emblem which aren't drawn today, it's like stealing sand from a desert.

I generally agree with that..for a for profit project.

Gosub, despite have 2.6k Github stars, has a grand total of 0 sponsors. They literally take in no money. This is someone's unpaid side project.

I expect a designer would be welcome to contribute a design, just like coders can contribute code.

> Isn't this how generative models are supposed to be used?

Might be, or better just use the name as the logo. At this initial stage no one expects to see a good branding I guess.

I've recently seen lots of low effort, sketchy looking projects using "sub-par" quality AI generated assets...and in turn when I see these kinds of images used in some project it really just shows off "put least effort to get things done" mentality...I feel.

"put least effort to get things done"

Some would say that's the mark of a great engineer.

No, the website isn't AI generated. There might be some parts of it, though, like general structure of the website and structure of texts.

Yes, the initial logo design was generated by AI, however the current logo was made by a designer from the AI's draft.

I don't know if it is a compliment that my website design skills match the ones of AI or if it is more an insult

> I don't know if it is a compliment that my website design skills match the ones of AI or if it is more an insult

Neither, it has nothing to do with design. I just wanted to point out that putting an AI generated logo, and writing vague statements like "optimised search and unlimited browsing" seems unprofessional to me.

The "optimised search and unlimited browsing" isn't really a statement, it is the expanded form of the acronym gosub. As I said, I don't really like it, but this is what we have now... :/ But I can definitely see where you are coming from.

if you don't like it. And people are also telling you they don't like it, then why do you insist on having it be an acronym?

The acronym was basically there from Day 1, I am not the Person who came up with it and I also wasn't there at Day 1.

I love the logo and I love the name. Sounds like a polarizing logo; that's a good thing. I remember having similar thoughts to this other person when Google first launched their search engine with their "ugly rainbow" logo. You're good.

> P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :)

The first half of this post reeks of GPT-ness as well, that was the first thing I noticed.

>P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :)

certainly some reasoning would be more constructive than a smiley face, because I looked at the website, I looked at the logo[0] - I didn't share the same feeling.

Certainly it could be AI generated, but why 'sketchy'? Is it something to do with your own personal feelings on AI use, or just the aesthetic in general?

I genuinely don't understand -- this isn't a criticism or witty comment lest it be taken that way.

[0]: https://gosub.io/gosub-logo.svg

Just a personal perspective… no problem with the logo but the headline

“The Gateway to Optimized Search and Unlimited Browsing”

Doesn’t really mean anything to me and does sound vaguely scammy. Anyone promising me the gateway to unlimited anything gets a raised eyebrow, two if it’s something I already have unlimited access to.

Iirc that thing was also AI generated. I don't like it, but here we are and have this sentence. Imo ChatGPT is for name generation not the... best

I don't think that's meant to be taken seriously/literally - seems like a tongue-in-cheek acronym for "GOSUB".

> certainly some reasoning would be more constructive than a smiley face...

I already gave the reasons there.

> I didn't share the same feeling.

Just a personal opinion.

The viewport is very wide on mobile Safari

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