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Sabine is often right, but I think she's wrong here about Lorentz invariance being a problem, or at least a problem in the way she's saying.

Lorentz transformations are never going to length-contract the underlying fabric of space/spacetime. Relativistic length contractions contract moving objects, not the underlying spacetime.

In fact it's a strange and basic misunderstanding to have.

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Sabine is correct. All objects in a spacetime are anchored to that spacetime, so if spacetime has a minimum length, then length contraction of moving objects has a detectable lower limit, thus violating Lorentz invariance.

She seems to be talking about spacetime itself being Lorentz contracted though.

it's true that a sufficiently fast moving object would be length contracted so much that it started interacting with the minimal LQG length, which would violate Lorentz invariance. Depending on how big the LQG loops are, that could be a fanstastically high speed that isn't achievable in the universe though.

Continuously saying "minimum length could just be smaller" is a god of the gaps argument. Technically correct but wildly suspicious, particularly if your theory doesn't actually say what the minimum length ought to be, eg. it's borderline not falsifiable if you can keep moving the goalposts.

I assume the paper she and Brian Keating are talking about were very explicit in how they tested this property and how Lorentz invariance was expected to be violated, so you could check the paper for specifics.

Depending on your reference coordinate system, space is transformed. That is the entire point of relativity theory. You might be misunderstanding things here.

Coordinates are transformed, not the actual space. Objects are length-contracted due to the electric field being length contracted.

You seem to be of the same opinion as Sabine when it comes down to distinguishing between mathematical modelling, and reality. In mathematics though, coordinate transformation and space transformation are the same thing. How that plays out for the actual physics happening, might be a different thing, but note that you still describe it mathematically.

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