If you just teleport a fat guy from Bentonville to Manhattan and give him a Metrocard he will lose a pound a week. The people who say nobody can lose weight, it's too hard, cannot explain why there are macroscale populations with lower obesity.
Are you sure?
>In 2023, over 35 percent of adults in the Netherlands were classed as overweight, meaning they had a body mass index (BMI)of between 25 and 30. Furthermore, just under 16 percent of adults were obese
>47 percent of French adults were overweight, of which 17 percent suffered from obesity
>49% of the Belgian population has overweight, of which 18% have obesity.
>Spain: 43% of adults aged 18 years and over were overweight and 16% were living with obesity
>46.6% of women and 60.5% of men in Germany are affected by overweight (including obesity). Nearly one-fifth of adults (19%) have obesity.
Looks like it's actually 1-in-5.
Are you arguing that 1:5 is good, but 1:4 is bad?
The only large populations of people in the world that aren't quite fat are southeast Asians. And this is fairly accurate whether they leave in southeast Asia or in the US or western Europe. Not 1:5, closer to 1:20 or in one case 1:50.
Even then, southeast Asian obesity rates are climbing. The US may have led the pack because of a consistently high standard of living, but I don't see any indication that there are macroscale populations anywhere in the world keeping the disease at bay.
No, I'm saying that 1:4 is something to brag about, and 1:5 is even better.
Anything is fair. It is a discussion forum. You can say whatever the hell you want. But it is equally nonsensical.
> so I'm looking to see why they think otherwise.
You looked for someone else – someone who prepared a study – to tell you why it might be otherwise. But if you want to talk to someone else, go talk to that someone else. If you want to come here, be happy with the people who are here. They might actually teach you something without having to defer to random other people.
I could see a reasonable complaint that asking for studies is being passive-aggressive, but it's the sort of passive-aggressive that both helps keep the discussion more civil and leaves room to actually substantiate the original claims (that is, it's actively better for keeping the discussion going!). Just saying "lol, no, wrong" kills the discussion far more than talking about (lack of) evidence.
If someone is full of shit, and assuming you care, then logically you would put in the effort to fix their misunderstanding, not tell them off. Exclaiming that someone is "full of shit", politely or not, is stupid. If you don't care, then why not own it? Don't care.
> The only person being stupid here is the person making strong empirical claims without qualifying them or providing supporting evidence.
There can be more than one stupid party involved.
> I could see a reasonable complaint that asking for studies is being passive-aggressive
It is just straight up nonsensical. I get that is was only ever a silly meme and always understood to be nonsensical, but a meme that has become quite tired. It was funny 20 years ago, perhaps, but at this point it is time to lay it to rest. I mean, anything goes in discussion. If you still think it is edgy, go for it. But the rest of us will still think it is stupid.