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The split of ATT killed Unix2, so we spent 30 years re-implementing Linux+k8s. These things that existed in Unix2 & Plan9 were re-implemented by Plan9 employees in Google Labs.

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UNIX exists because ATT was split. They could not profit from software (by law because of an agreement with the government) so early versions of UNIX where made free.

This should be well known, simple google search:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/why...

i can't even understand what you are saying? AT&T was good, or bad?

AT&T copyrights led to linux, and linux, independent of unix, has been a huge boon for good, and for unixness.

the threat to unix now is all the people who by nature prefer Dave Cutlerness, and can't see that their way is the wrong way, now they are using linux (because it won) and trying to ruin it.

The AT&T split had nothing to do with monopoly regulation (as opposed to the Bell breakup in 1982), other than the fact that Wall Street wasn't rewarding regulated operating companies with dot-com valuations. AT&T wanted to sell hardware to other telcos and dot-coms, so spun off Lucent, which had no idea what it wanted to do with P9/Inferno (which was a fantastic piece of kit!) other than embed it into a couple of network products. Lucent bet heavily on unstable CLECs like Worldcom, generated a couple of headline-creating network crashes, and then failed to capitalize on their pole position in optical long-haul (to be fair, they also bet heavily on a very unstable Global Crossing for that). There's a lot of mismanagement and failures that can be ascribed to Lucent leadership without government or regulatory intervention being involved.

UNIX only became a success, because ATT initially wasn't allowed to charge real money for research work.

Seconding info about "unix2". I used to pour over the trade tabloids, and I've never heard of this.

Novell bought UNIX and has some grand plans for "SuperNOS", which also never shipped. It certainly wasn't anything like K8s.

Never even heard of Unix2 - was it a complete replacement ?

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