Comment by shiroiushi | Hacker News Reader

Comment by shiroiushi | Hacker News Reader

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I'm not so sure this is a problem. They're not completely blocking ad-blockers, just neutering them somewhat with MV3. You can still use uBOL (the "Lite" version of uBO) and get a lot of ads blocked on Chrome.

Remember, Chrome is not installed by default on Windows PCs; Edge is. People are using Chrome because they want to. They could just as easily download Firefox and uBO, like more-savvy users do. Unfortunately, too many can't be bothered. Should they be saved from excessive and intrusive ads? Again, they can easily install uBOL on their Chrome instance, or they can download and install FF+uBO. Or use something else like Brave.

>Tell your friends to use Firefox, people.

Absolutely, yes. Just don't be too surprised when you visit them later and they're still using Chrome (or Edge) with no ad-blocker at all. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

>Chrome is not installed by default on Windows PCs; Edge is

Whenever this is brought up, the silence is deafening.

Edge is a good browser, and users are notoriously lazy; most won't read a dialog box before clicking it away. And yet... ~everyone on Windows still downloads Chrome.

does google.com still push Chrome? I think it does, and it's most people's first website

IME if I am using a non-Chrome browser I get three nags from Google to switch to Chrome before it gives up. It's happened on Google's home page, Gmail, and Maps.

> Whenever this is brought up, the silence is deafening.

Because it's a bad faith argument meant to dismiss all context surrounding the situation to be a reductive 'gotcha' point. Anti consumer practices are still harmful even if people willingly opt into them, and there's no cute soliloquy for you to publicly muse onto us here that would be able to suggest otherwise to dissipate the sentiment.

Your parent poster commented on the nature of learned helplessness to an obvious problem by framing it as leading a horse to water. They were talking about people like you.

I'm starting to notice that a popular rhetorical tactic for attacking an argument is to claim that it is in bad faith.

Interestingly, making such an accusation when it is unwarranted, as is the case here, is itself a bad-faith argument.

But I suppose this is just another cute soliloquy that I am "musing onto" you.

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