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How can that ever work in a world filled with people that are eager to lie to you?

digital signatures?

But I can generate something with AI and then sign it myself and say "I wrote it, pinky promise".

Since most people don't write anything on the internet, I can pay people $5 to use their signature and operate a "sign farm".

Look at the effort these people go though to send their spam.

Sure, but we’re working with a real person's reputation. If they are willing to gamble with AI, that’s their problem.

I’m hoping for a “this human being validated this message”. I think that alone could solve multiple problems.

Maybe OpenAI is really just Sam Altman's last ditch effort to save WorldCoin?

A web of trust or reputation based system can be built on top of the signature scheme - maybe an appearance of smaller invite-only forums that share reputation. Or maybe it will just become an integrated part of the moderation of existing platforms like Reddit, Mastodon and Bluesky

If you put your name on AI spam people will flag your post and no-one will bother to see your posts for at least a few years.

And if people don't like you what you're talking about then people will flag your post too. This is not going to work at any serious scale – certainly not across the internet – because abuse will be rampant.

You can fix this at a hardware level with Cameras. This will, at least, save the most harmful kind of lying. Where real-looking photos and videos are used to defame real people.

I'm not really sure if I follow your suggestion; what would be done with the camera? Authenticate that a picture is real? I'm not sure how that will be workable? For example, how would I (random internet person) verify a picture from you (also random internet person) is real?

You can verify that a particular camera produced a particular photograph. Essentially, the camera would sign the photograph. Random internet person to other random internet person it wouldn't matter, I imagine. But for, say, a news paper, they can verify that a particular image was produced by a particular camera at a particular time.

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