Gustav Klimt's Obsession with Gold
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Having said that, my mom specifically has a few favorite artists, Klimt being one of them. Over the years she's been asked to make dozens of Klimt replicas(The Kiss probably accounting for 80% of them) and she's loved doing all of them. I think Klimt is the only artist to successfully incorporate gold into his paintings without making them look obnoxious or ostentatious. Not only that but made them look incredible. Admittedly I never looked all that deep as to why he was "obsessed" with it.
To me that's New York Italian, with lots of marble, gold, and extreme decor. It's a big marble tub with gold fixtures and maybe a couple of statues hanging around for good measure...in a marble/gold/mirrors bath.
Oh, I didn't know the word, but I know what it means! Haha! Back in the days I worked in a printing house, one of the most common orders were business cards. Unimaginably large proportion of those were to be screen-printed with gold paint that increased in volume when heated on a paper that looked like marble. These orders usually came from people who had... well... no business to appear to be rich. Like, a local police department chief or an owner of a small refrigerated delivery service (that one was both morbid and bizarre as he wanted raw meat texture for the business card).
Being an art college grad, I tend to think that a lot of Klimt's portraits weren't particularly indicative of what he wanted to paint. It was what put food on the table, what customers paid him for. He found a way to please the customers that worked. How much did he enjoy it?--Hard to tell. From my student years, when I had to make a living from art, which was admittedly not so easy or successful, I'd guess that in his heart of hearts he probably at the minimum laughed at it.
> I think Klimt is the only artist to successfully incorporate gold into his paintings without making them look obnoxious or ostentatious.
Byzantine iconography comes off as neither obnoxious nor ostentatious. The use of gold in Botticelli's works wonderfully. And so on. What exactly is an example of "obnoxious or ostentatious" use of gold in art? I can only think of ridiculous things like gold-plated toilets. Perhaps you were exposed to especially egregious works that are not familiar to the general public?
I suspect you are judging gold not from reasoned taste, but some kind of prejudice.
Use of gold on a kings actual throne may seem more appropriate than a CEO’s chair but that’s a judgement about what should be venerated not the intent behind the use of gold.
attracting or seeking to attract attention, admiration, or envy often by gaudiness or obviousness : overly elaborate or conspicuous : characterized by, fond of, or evincing ostentation
The key to ostentation is vulgarity or crudeness, ugliness. You even use the word "tacky", so clearly you aren't blind to at least the general idea of bad taste, even if we may be in disagreement about what constitutes bad taste.Obviously, gold can be used to signify the importance of something, but that doesn't make it ostentatious. What I contest is the pejorative.
> that’s a judgement about what should be venerated not the intent behind the use of gold.
The use of gold is a matter of intention. A judgement is made that something is worthy of honor, another that gold is an aesthetically suitable material that, in some way, can be used to assist in honoring said thing, and the intention is made to honor said thing in such a manner.
That’s not in the definition you quoted. The 2 different OR’s mean many different things qualify as ostentatious as lone as 1 or more of the following applies.
seeking to attract attention
seeking to attract admirarion
seeking to attract envy
attracting attention
attracting admirarion
attracting envy
The “often by” means it isn’t required for the definition to apply. Gothic cathedrals therefore qualify as they where designed to attract attention and admirarion and in most instances also achieved that goal even without a garish color scheme or tons of gold inlays etc.> You even use the word "tacky", so clearly you aren't blind to at least the general idea of bad taste, even if we may be in disagreement about what constitutes bad taste.
FALSE. Vulgarity or crudeness isn’t part of the definition. I used “tacky” as a specific qualifier to distinguish vulgar from non vulgar examples of ostentation.
A peacock display generally described as ostentatious but nobody calls it tacky. https://www.audubon.org/news/a-literal-bird “Peacocks have some of the most ostentatious (and famous) feathers in the animal kingdom.” People using those feathers can definitely get tacky. But essentially tacky is ostentatious displays done poorly.
Read in such a decontextualized, selective, and uncharitable manner renders the definition worthless. For example, is any attempt to attract attention ostentatious? Any attempt to attract envy? Admiration? I think not. So your reading is inadequate and defective. Something is presupposed by the definition for it to make sense, which is to be expected, as dictionaries are not compendia of mathematical formulas written in some rigorously formalized language defined in the preface.
The first part of the definition does indeed use the word "often" which appears to soften the relation between gaudiness and the rest, but it still establishes a generality, i.e., that gaudiness is a reliable mark of ostentation. Otherwise, what's the point of including that in the definition if it isn't somehow characteristic of ostentation? It would not be a matter of definition, just an incidental thing that may or may not be true.
Note also the second part of the definition: "overly elaborate or conspicuous". Something that is overly elaborate conspicuous has transgressed some norm, has it not? Otherwise, how can you judge that something is "overly" elaborate? And if beauty is what satisfies a norm, then departure from the norm, either by defect or excess, is a deviation and so the thing in question has moved away from beauty toward ugliness. The technique used may be refined, but the composition can still be ugly. (And note that I, too, used an "or" in "The key to ostentation is vulgarity or crudeness, ugliness". I didn't think it needed to be spelled out.)
Now take the Oxford Dictionary's definition, which is arguably a bit sharper in this regard:
pretentious and vulgar display, especially of wealth and luxury, intended to impress or attract notice.
This definition leaves no doubt about the relation of vulgarity and pretentiousness to ostentation.> A peacock display generally described as ostentatious but nobody calls it tacky.
Yes, people can use it that way, but this is an analogical use of the term. But the use of "ostentatious" in your original post was not this meaning, at least not according to a normal reading given the sum of all context clues. In fact, you wrote:
> I think Klimt is the only artist to successfully incorporate gold into his paintings without making them look obnoxious or ostentatious.
Wait a minute! Klimt's use of gold could be heavy by any standard. Most iconography, and most art that uses gold, in fact, doesn't lean into gold as much as Klimt does in some of his works. So something doesn't add up here. The only way you could make that claim is if the aim of Klimt's work, its form, makes legitimate such heavy use of gold. Furthermore, you say "obnoxious and ostentatious". Not pejorative? Could have fooled me! Is some defect, something vulgar OR crude OR ugly being suggested? How could something beautiful be obnoxious?
ostentatious, adj.
Of actions, events, qualities, etc.: performed, exercised, or displayed in a manner calculated to attract attention or admiration
One of the examples is: “He gave an ostentatious yawn.”
So, sure often it’s used in the context you’re referring to but that doesn’t mean any use is limited to that context.
> For example, is any attempt to attract attention ostentatious?
Attempts to grab attention are inherently a transgression, remember kids in school being admonished for attention grabbing behavior? Raising your hand is an attempt at communication, raising your hand and waving wildly it is an attempt to “gab attention” there’s a difference.
Advertising blockers removes even pure text advertising because grabbing attention is inherently a transgression. But, we don’t classify all transgressions as problematic. Someone breaking the speed limit taking someone to the hospital in a major medical emergency is generally accepted though not if they’re doing 190 MPH. A wedding dress has more leeway to be ostentatious than most outfits, but the line of acceptable has moved not been removed.
I’d say that’s close to the definition of ostentatious. So we may simply disagree with what the word means.
The OP suffers from a similar problem. He judged the use of gold "ostentatious" (which is pejorative), and behind this judgement is a tacit backdrop of sensibilities and I claim prejudices that constitute a pseudo-norm, but no objective norm. Arbitrary norms are not interesting.
My wife prepared the whole trip and I was mostly going with the flow. Unbeknownst to me, we would see The Kiss that day. It was striking. I mean, the lighting was obviously perfect and the surprise must have helped. But the colors, texture and shapes are just remarkable. I'll never forget making a corner turn and being completely mesmerized.
One of those moments that makes you realize the value of the original, the whole Walter Benjamin aura thing.
Of TFA, it is no surprise that he was greatly influenced by Byzantine mosaics. Both are supremely decorative, flat and strongly symmetrical.
The color of physical metallic gold is outside of sRGB color space. Maybe you could get close enough to fool people with some of the best modern HDR's (I don't know), but for most of the history of modern computing it didn't matter how good you were at digital animation -- no display could display the color "gold" even if you could mathematically compute the right color.
I'm sure that there are some colors in the human-visible range that aren't covered by sRGB but idk if gold is one of them
The real problem is that gold is a mirror. It's shiny and changes appearance based on viewing angle and environment. A computer can only simulate that for the scene within the computer. It can't make the image itself more or less shiny than the physical monitor.
Without the shininess, gold just looks like a dirty yellow.
Another one is the "speckles" you see when illuminating a surface with a laser.
Using a digital brush on its own can be extremely limiting. Digital paint is inherently flat and lifeless. Textured brushes can help, but not much. I would recommend employing natural textures via blend modes. The best blend mode for passing textures from one image to another is overlay. In this way the texture of a photo of a rusty surface may be passed onto a painting of a rock. Essentially painting with textures... or photo-bashing.
Here is a walk through I did for my students…
https://rmit.instructure.com/courses/87565/pages/photoshop-p...
Happy to answer any questions.
Sounds like an excellent opportunity to introduce them to drawing from observation? They don't have to understand what "materiality" is, just see that the object appears different depending on how they hold it, where the lights are and what else is around it. (Assuming that you don't have a bar of gold hanging out in your class you could grab some toy gold coins.)
http://razzaminipainting.blogspot.com/2016/07/non-metallic-m...
Here’s the link without the bullshit: http://razzaminipainting.blogspot.com/2016/07/non-metallic-m...
But good god are they beautiful. They just make me so happy to see them. Or sad.
My favorites are probably the birch forests, though, perhaps Birch Forest (1903) [1]
1. https://www.wikiart.org/en/gustav-klimt/farmhouse-with-birch...
This is TMZ-level art journalism.