Any chance of this being released open weights? Or is the risk of bad PR too high (especially near a US election)?
It being 30B gives me hope.
It being 30B gives me hope.
[0] https://ai.meta.com/blog/generative-ai-text-images-cm3leon/
Considering that Facebook/Meta releases blog posts titled "Open Source AI Is the Path Forward" but then refuses to actually release any Open Source AI, I'm guessing the answer is a hard "No".
They might release it under usage restrictions though, like they did with Llama, although probably only the smaller versions, to limit the output quality.
Just because pytorch is Open Source doesn't mean everything Meta AI releases is Open Source, not sure how that would make sense.
Datasets for Llama 3 is "A new mix of publicly available online data.", not exactly open or even very descriptive. That could be anything.
And no, the training code for Llama 3 isn't available, response from a Meta employee was: "However, at the moment-we haven't open sourced the pre-training scripts".
Here is the Llama source code, you can start training more epochs with it today if you like: https://github.com/meta-llama/llama3/blob/main/llama/model.p...
It's rumored Llama 3 used FineWeb, but you're right that they at least haven't been transparent about that: https://huggingface.co/datasets/HuggingFaceFW/fineweb
For models I prefer the term "open weight", but to assert they haven't open sourced models at all is plainly incorrect.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the code for doing inference?
Meta employee told me just the other day: "However, at the moment-we haven't open sourced the pre-training scripts", can't imagine they would be wrong about it?
https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-recipes/issues/693
> For models I prefer the term "open weight"
Personally, "Open" implies I can download them without signing an agreement with LLama, and I can do whatever I want with it. But I understand the community seems to think otherwise, especially considering the messaging Meta has around Llama, and how little the community is pushing back on it.
So Meta doesn't allow downloading the Llama weights without accepting the terms from them, doesn't allow unrestricted usage of those weights, doesn't share the training scripts nor the training data for creating the model.
The only thing that could be considered "open" would be that I can download the weights after signing the terms. Personally I wouldn't make the case that that's "open" as much as "possible to download", but again, I understand others understand it differently.
Apologies - you are right and I was wrong. I would edit my comments but they're past the edit window, will leave a comment accordingly.
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