Cheddar
cheddarapp.com
cheddarapp.com
I've timed myself. IT takes me about 6 seconds to write something on a whiteboard. And about 10 to take a picture of it with my phone.
Compare that to the 20+ it takes for me to pull out my phone, open an app, get into the list I want, and then type it out on a shitty little keyboard.
Until you make a note taking app that takes less time to use than a white board, I'm gonna use the whiteboard.
I would love to hear your opinions after you've tried all those other apps.
But it is a hard space because it is such a polluted space. we are thinking of possibly pivoting it and using what we learned building it into a new service that focuses on needs of businesses in regards to setting of geofences.
Location triggering reminders is actually a pretty damn useful thing. I can't remember how many times I can't remember to do something until its too late.
Unfortunately, this is something better built into a mobile device from the get-go, and not an add-on. If it was easy to set up, and did push or text notifications that would be nice. Getting the forgetful type to download and configure it will be the biggest challenge.
We are researching the geo-fencing for businesses because we have been approached by one for setting up a service for their business, so we are looking into whether there is need for other businesses or whether this will just be a consulting job.
You should check out Threadnote (www.threadnote.com) -- we made it exactly for that reason.
Looks more like a project management suite mislabeled as a to-do list.
"Ok, making your reminder."
If you don't think this is a useful or good app, you don't even have to look at it. Just pass.
At least when someone launches a product, if you don't have anything encouraging or constructive to say, it's best not to say anything.
It seems HN is suffering more and more from the "Why wasn't I consulted?" angst - http://www.ftrain.com/wwic.html
And the second is a Time Tracking app followed by a Project Management app.
I don't think this is suppose to be an email killer. If they are doing this because of what PG said then I am afraid they might misunderstood him.
http://samsoff.es/posts/staying-strong
I applaud the effort and entrepreneurial spirit and even the quality of the UI work. I'd question the judgement when there are so many to-do apps out there already.
Also, companies often evolve in different directions from where they start. Take Instagram for instance, they evolved from a social network and in the middle decided to take another path.
For the record, this was just one of the smallest projects I could think of to learn a new technology. I think the space sucks but that's largely because everybody does exactly the same thing. It's kind of funny that I couldn't bring myself to work on something that stale even if it was just for me to see.
You assign a due date and a dollar amount punishment when you create a todo list or task. When you fail to complete your tasks on the due date, your account is charged the punishment amount.
"How do you verify that the task has been completed?" you might ask.
You don't. If users "cheat" then they're just losing out on the motivation service, otherwise you get the motivation required to do the task on time.
Be sure to read the app description before you download, so you know how to use it correctly. It's simple, but really gets you motivated to get things done on time.
iDevices you mean.
sigh...
sigh
Brings back memories. I used to work on some of these devices for desktop sync. (With Schedule+ no less. Damn, that dates me)
I have seen some Japan only devices with fabulous color screens. They were way ahead of their time.
Time to charge the camera batteries.
Fun read.
Additionally -
Product Marketing 101: If you're competing in a space with [hundreds of] others just like you, you need to have a shortlist of reasons why to choose yours over the others before just dropping people into it.
You should also account for the amount of people visiting your site when you launch so it isn't crawling when people try to sign up for it. I'm trying to traverse the site right now to find where I can see a compare-and-contrast of similar tools and it is useless.
Also just noticed the icon is basically Clear's -- another list/to-do app -- is that intentional? Surely we can find better ways of illustrating lists than using a checkmark so people don't get confused.
Couple that with Fantastical on the Mac menu bar which now shows those same iCloud Reminders and you have a slick solution.
It's just text. Type in the box. Press return. Done.
I'd love to complete all my tasks by typing in a box and pressing return.
Remember the Milk also has better device support.
I'm pretty unclear on the value prop.
Feedback specific to the website: If a user hasn't downloaded one of the apps yet have the "apps" link from the footer in a more prominent place. I didn't notice it at first and wondered how to find the app links.
Also the ability to login via the website would nice, so after logging in I scan a QR code and it logs me in on my phone too, typing out my password on my phone is an annoyance.
1) The simplest applications are still hard to polish this much. In fact, simple things can often hide some of the hardest design choices.
2) Three years ago, Twitter apps were the UI design playground of choice. Now that they've told everyone not to write new clients, UI experimentation has shifted to other applications. Compare Cheddar to Clear, for example. Both are nominally to-do lists, both have carefully thought out custom interfaces, but they express very different philosophies about software design.
I picked Wunderlist and have used that for a long time because it's on every platform I care about (iPhone, iPad, and Mac) BUT it's absolutely horrible about syncing content and I get duplicates and missing todos all the time. I just tried out cheddar's "push" feature and it's actually enough for me to leave Wunderlist.
Also the Markdown feature is awesome
*Except Android, Windows mobile, etc..
Todo apps: Any.do, Orchestra, 2Do, Do It Tomorrow, TeuxDeux
List apps: Clear, Cheddar, Listary
I always keep one of each one my phone, because they serve entirely different purposes. While they both work by storing lists, there's a big difference for me between tasks and items in a list. When I'm tracking tasks, I want things organized based on timeframes (maybe also assigning priorities, due dates, or categories), and an interface designed around that principle is always going to do that better; you could use Clear or Cheddar to store "Today", "Tomorrow", and "Soon" lists, but that's a poor hack. When I'm simply maintaining a list of things to remember (e.g., grocery list, debts to friends, items I need to buy after moving, songs to buy, 100 push-ups program), all I want is several (separate) lists with items I can add, edit, rearrange, and delete.
I currently use Any.do as my tasks app and Clear as my list app. I really like the design of both of them, but I have reservations of both. Any.do takes a very nice approach of sorting tasks into bins of Today, Tomorrow, This Week, and Later, but aggressively bubbles tasks up (the idea is nice if Tomorrow tasks moved into Today after a day, and This Week into Tomorrow after 6 days, and Later always stayed in Later, but I've had to push the same tasks back into Later and This Week 4+ times per week). Clear lacks syncing of any kind -- this is extremely frustrating because it could easily hook into something like SimpleNote. I really like the focus on syncing from Cheddar, but I have major reservations about the subscription concept (even though experience shows that I move between these apps frequently and will likely not need to pay for many months, a subscription feels like a significant investment whereas a <$5 app doesn't), and I find myself missing Any.do and Clear's gestures.
[I downloaded any.do - like it!]
The same is true of Evernote. Email drafts are searchable and available on all my devices, so I just keep my notes there, too.
If I wanted to get fancy, I could make a folder just for todo lists and one for notes. But, I rarely have more than one active list at a time, and notes being searchable makes it easy to find the one I need when I need it.
I can't wait to try the Mac App mentioned on the Support page - https://cheddarapp.com/support. I hope it fits in a small horizontal space, so that it can be always open (much like a Twitter client).
Good looking stuff. Excited to see if I can incorporate it into my workflow.
Looks like Cheddar is going to replace Wunderlist for me. 6Wunderkinder haven't updated their iPad app in ages, and the non-retina graphics makes their product unattractive.
Will not use. And, even if those features show up, won't consider due to lack basic thought in initial design.
I've said before and I'll say it again: todo's are a functionality that are only useful when broadly accessible from many different apps and contexts. Your app (for any your) is mostly useless to me.
Edit: I don't get all the hate this post is receiving. Is it because I didn't wrap it in sugar? Is it because I listed the things I would actually consider paying for? Or is it just because I'm disagreeing with some startup and that's against the local religion?
Next, it would seem pretty fanatical to say "this app does everything I want to, but because the features weren't there in the first version, I refuse to use it." If the new functionality is well-integrated and not simply shoe-horned in, would does the first version of the product have any relevance at all?
"I don't get all the hate this post is receiving. ". The post itself feels like a lot of hatred behind him. Maybe it is getting the same medicine?
Still early stage?
- is there any way to altogether delete tasks? looks like you can only archive - are there any plans to have an osx app? i was just looking for something like this yesterday for my MBP
Sam, congratulations on your launch.
Not that cheddar can't be a good cheese, but on the other side of the pond, cheddar is really the most basic cheese.
But superlative or not, I do greatly enjoy a quality sharp cheddar.