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> If you drive an oversized SUV which you have further lifted off the ground, removed the muffler from, and make exhaust that gives me a headache, everyone is going to assume you are a creepy asshole with no self respect or respect for your neighbors.

Or maybe it's just you being weird with your city-dweller assumptions?

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Oh, I assure you they're a problem outside of the city as well. The whole shtick of preener trucks is performative masculinity, because otherwise you'd optimize for a vehicle that actually does things rather than one that just makes a bunch of noise/smoke for fun while not even moving that well. And so "late to the meeting of the small penis club" is just a good mental label to have some pity and not end up taking this contemporary dirtbag trend too seriously.

no this happens both in and out of cities. Just moved out of the American south where something called "rolling coal" is common practice in suburbs, cities, rural areas- a term heard fairly often. A bizarre amount of pickup owners modify diesel engines to produce thick, black smoke as a means of showing off or as a nuisance to others. I know I had a lot of lifted trucks cut me off and roll coal

Hear me out, but childhood trauma and neglect is common in rural areas. This was especially the case 30-40 years ago when family violence prevention programs were just lip service and practically non-existent.

I assume those children grew up to become maladapted adults with Cluster B traits. This manifests as antisocial nuisance behaviours such as rolling coal.

Childhood trauma isn't an excuse for being an asshole, though.

They could drive a modest sedan and with the difference they saved they could afford some real good therapy.

It's not "weird" to not want gratuitous nuisance, health problems, or slaughtered children. Indeed, indifference to these seems extremely weird (sociopathic), and I would appreciate it if such people stay far from civilization out in the desert or whatever.

(Though they should also be paying their fair share for the environmental costs of the CO2 emissions they pump out which are putting us on a path toward literal un-livability of the Earth, to which end gasoline should probably cost like $15/gallon.)

> It's not "weird" to not want gratuitous nuisance, health problems, or slaughtered children.

Using outrageous hyperbole in this manner might be even more weird than your original baseless assumptions.

> fair share... of the CO2 emissions they pump out which are putting us on a path toward literal un-livability of the Earth

Your hyperbole is putting on a path toward literal un-livability of the Earth. It's making me nauseous because of how weird it is.

Can you explain why you'd characterize it as hyperbole? Larger vehicles are demonstrably more dangerous[1], especially to children, and do put out more CO2 emissions. In what other context is it socially acceptable for people to put externalities like those brought by SUVs onto those around them? The one I can mostly think of is secondhand smoke, which at least in my part of the world is pretty heavily looked down on.

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> compact SUVs, full-size SUVs, and pickup trucks all result in a significantly higher probability of pedestrian death when compared to a similar collision involving a car. Compact SUVs increase the probability of death by 63%, pickups increase the probability by 68%, and full-size SUVs increase the probability by 99%

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221201222...

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