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I swap my batteries (and always have a spare which doubles my battery time - with my phone I have three), on my laptop, on my phone, and if I had one, on my tablet.

I'll never buy Apple until they have replaceable batteries. I know several people like me, and there are probably a lot out there just like me. I don't know why Apple people think "why not get an IPad" if price is comparable. I'd pay a bit extra for the same specs just for the battery being swappable.

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So you always carry two extra batteries around? That must be fun. What model phone do you have that you need 3 batteries to get through the day? Wouldn't it be easier just to carry around a charger?

My buddy has a TMobile MyTouch phone (forget which one) and he goes through three batteries per day. My Samsung Admire lasts a day and a half on one battery with similar usage.

The difference is his MyTouch is "thin and sexy" and mine has a battery bulge and a tick smaller screen. Small battery + large power hungry screen = angry user base. He hates it but he's pretty loyal to TMobile. I suggested getting another Android phone but he's rather soured by the experience and plans on getting a WinPhone or iPhone (if they get them) when his contract is up.

That's just insane, and I can't think that's a typical usage scenario. Going through three batteries a day (assuming he charges it while he sleeps) means he's getting less than six hours per battery.

And I don't understand the loyalty to a carrier that sells phones with such poor performance. Where does his loyalty come from, a crush on the cute girl in the T-Mobile ads?

Phones are different from tablets/laptops in terms of battery use case, of course. An iPhone's internal battery can quickly charge to 75% in your pocket (60 minutes) from a spare battery, and then be good to go for another 12-18 hours.

A Single Extra Hyperjuice Battery in your pocket will let you go 7-10 days with an iPhone without having to recharge from a wall socket.

The problem with the iPad is that it's battery is so high-capacity - that you can't do the same kind of trivial charge in your pocket trick. Also - the batteries take about 5 hours to get up to a 75% charge.

So - the battery problem has been mostly solved for iPhones (just recharge them from a hyper juice or like spare battery) but iPads have yet to come out with the same convenient solution.

Hmm, 100 bucks though, still kinda high priced. I can get two batteries with a wall charger for 20 bucks on amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/1900mAh-Batteries-GT-I9100-Anker-Multi...

A weekend charge and I'm often good for the whole workweek.

>I'll never buy Apple until they have replaceable batteries.

Then you'll never buy Apple.

Non-replaceable battery means a much better device. Going back to replaceable batteries would be a huge step backwards. Replaceable batteries on portable devices are going away. Sorry to break the new to you.

I disagree. Non replaceable batteries are a step back. Guess it depends on your outlook. I like to work with things. Some electronics, some carpentry, some mechanic work on my cars. Anything that restricts that freedom is a step backwards. Anytime you are at the whim of a tyrannical company, you are limiting yourself.

All IMO, I get that, but this is why I disagree.

Why? I have a pretty new Galaxy Nexus and I can replace the battery just fine.

Which is better, two 20WHr batteries or one 40WHr battery?

Two twenties, because after a few months, I have two 15s and you have a twenty. Batteries never seem to fully charge like the used to.

My wife has a iPhone (the 4s or something) and still has to charge hers more than I do (Samsung Galaxy II). Not a whole lot different, but instead of her being tied to the outlet, I can pull my battery out, put in the new one and keep going.

That kind of convenience is worth everything to me. Also 200 dollars to replace a battery that lasts a year is still a lot less than I spend. I spend 20 bucks for two spare batteries on Amazon. I don't go through 20 batteries a year, that's for sure.

By the time a [nondefective] battery needs replacing in an iPhone, your warranty is up anyways. They're not user-replaceable under warranty but they're not especially difficult to replace either, and only cost about $30 from an OEM parts supplier.

Apple batteries last much longer than a year. My first iPhone was 3G model and after changing hands three times and three and a half years later it still goes strong. Also you are never tied to the outlet with iPhone — battery easily lasts a day even under heavily usage, so you can just plug it in for the night. And for most people convenience is not to have to carry spare batteries. I never so a person who did that — it is extremely rare preference. Apple is done with replaceable batteries, expect others go the same way.

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