Rural Americans are dying younger, living less healthy lives, report reveals
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Consider that cardiovascular issues are one of the leading causes of death in the US. Time is of the essence. If your local hospital has been closed, your emergency services have been consolidated in your county, you're much more likely to be DOA than someone in the city.
Also, didn't the opioid crises primarily occurred in rural areas? That's going to affect the stats, too.
Access to American health care has jack shit in common with being able to live a healthy lifestyle. You can learn the latter from personal trainers, self-help books, physical education, sports involvement, all sorts of ways. Then you summon the discipline to adhere to such a lifestyle, and there's nothing a physician can do to influence those decisions.
The American health care system may be useful in cases of GSW or cardiac events or broken limbs, but people who use it exceedingly sparingly are the ones who end up enjoying health and wellness, without being inexorably steered into a pharmacy or chemotherapy.
Follow the money here: look at some maps; I've found in my urban area that FQHCs open up to take Medicaid/Medicare dollars for services to the poor and vulnerable. In the affluent neighborhoods, you'll find cosmetic clinics and surgeons, along with massage, spas, and boutique concierge naturopaths and other alternative practitioners. (None of the above are proven to extend lifespans nor improve outcomes for the sick.)
Don't believe me? Ask practicing physicians, who are utterly exasperated and fed up with all the patients who abused/neglected their bodies and now expect medicine to "fix them up" like the Tech Support desk. They can do nothing of the kind. Hopefully, they are compassionate and honest about those limitations.
Speaking as someone who lives in a rural area - this ain't it. The lifestyle choices are the biggest problem. Availability is just addressing the problem at the end of the problem.
I have lost 35lbs so far this year and it is pretty shocking the health benefits of not over eating good tasting food.
I think we all know this too but are collectively in denial because it is so boring eating chicken breast, broccoli and mustard yet again as I am right now instead of the awesome tasting dish from the incredible restaurants we have all over.
That is even with not drinking, not smoking and going to the gym for years.
People don't just want their cake and eat it too they want their cigarettes/vapes and smoke them too, a six pack and drink it too, a pizza to eat before the cake,all while only abstaining from physical activity.
My perspective may be skewed by my relatives who live in rural Appalachia. They keep gardens, have physical jobs, and hunt for meat. They live a few miles outside of a small town whose hospital just closed - the only one in the county. They do have a proper emergency care center that's designed to be able to get you stabilized and then transfer you to a hospital outside of the county.
You're right though - the people that live "in town", population 6,000, tend to live like urban folk without the urban amenities like you mentioned. I have no idea why people choose to live like that.
It is more that the poor lifestyle choices were already made, so it is most convenient to live in a rural area where there isn't as much social pressure to change. You can easily hide when you live on a desolate backroad. It is hard to hide when stepping outside means immediately running into hundreds of people ready to judge your "undesirable" behaviour.
> population 6,000, tend to live like urban folk
The USA defines urban as a population of at least 2,000 people, so those in that place with 6,000 people don't just live like urban folk. They are urban folk!
> I have no idea why people choose to live like that.
Many, if not most, times it's not a choice. Limited skills, limited education, limited drive, and limited exposure leads you to stick around where you are because you don't know any better.
> and not keeping a garden
I'll give you this. It was a thing, a big thing, when I was younger. It makes me think people have honestly gotten lazier - there seems to be no drive or desire to do so.
I eat some meals that are healthy, and some that aren't. None of them are organic.
The same is true for men of rural areas who are left to perish and become hopeless.
You'll die faster from hopelessness than any lifestyle choice.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Appalachia/comments/vizs8f/it_blows...
The issues with Appalachia aren't the result of some impossible geographic curse, they're the accumulation of countless political and economic decisions against trying to improve the region. All it would take to fix it is decades of coordinated efforts at every level of society. Obviously that's not going to happen, but recognizing that it's possible is better than pretending that we don't have the ability to change anything about the situation.
Certainly the situation in Appalachia could be improved. The point is that their geography is a handicap which makes almost everything a little harder.
That was supposed to be "self-medication", but we may have stumbled upon another idea here.
The entire food system is fucked, and it takes Herculean strength to overcome it.
Potatoes you don't want to go overboard on, but as carbs go they're among the better ones -- better than bread -- because their glycemic index is lower. And with the skins on they have nontrivial vitamin/mineral content.
If you did a little more cooking at home, particularly with beans (not in sugary ketchup, just beans with butter and spices -- salt, pepper, cumin, say), then you'd be a bit better, on account of the fiber. Add frozen or, failing that, canned vegetables, and you're almost actually good.
Often you can find canned chilli that's nutritionally pretty good; just make sure it doesn't have sugar; they put sugar in too much stuff.
Getting more of your calories from nuts is also a good option. Surely you can get a jar of peanuts? A large handful is 300 kcal. A couple of those spaced over the day can fuel you quite well with a slow burn.
The car-deprndrnce of the country is an issue; you probably would not naturally walk far enough. If there's some way to schedule in about two miles a day -- walk to the gas station for a black coffee? -- then that'd help to maintain some minimal baseline levels of activity.
Stick to the calorie count and maintain some (frankly modest) level of light exercise and you can maintain your health in a fairly wide range of circumstances.
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I get what you mean though. There's a real class difference. You go to higher class places and there are plenty of salad places around. You go to low class places and there's fast food junk. The latter isn't even much cheaper. It's enough to make you start wondering if people are in the classes they are because of the standards they have. That's not a comfortable thought, but, when you look at how all the bankers seem to also have good gym routines, you really do start to wonder.
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You don't need to do anything superhuman though. You don't need to even summon the willpower to hit the elliptical machine every day. If you just think about what you're eating, count calories, reduce sugar and fast carbs, and walk a bit, you'll do pretty well.
For the customer, perhaps. Higher margin, though, so the business can survive with fewer customers.
I think it is pretty clear that "high class" places attract more restaurant traffic. Case in point: The town I grew up in, of 1,000 people but a town of the rich and famous (you're probably familiar with quite a few of them), there are 15 restaurants (was 16, but one recently burnt down). The town where I live now, which is the next one up the road but more of a working man's town, has 3,000 people yet only seven restaurants.
Last time I was in McD the price of a salad (even without a chicken!) was close to the cost of BigMac.
But the most amusing is what I opened mcdonalds.com and there is no salads in the menu at all.
See also Merton Thesis,Mertonian Norms (dont know if that ever inspired sci-fi?)
「Becker 1992」
Question: are the Mertonian norms fundamentally inhospitable to meritocracy, so that they may yet serve as a viable target for the transmogrification of socalled antiintellualism?
>the scientific ethos does not have [its] theoreticians… but it has [its] [designori]
What's the clash with meritocracy? Disinterest?
Interesting to see Mennos classified here as "radical pietists" when I normally read of them as being "fancy anabaptists", where fancy is the opposite of radical in that it's a pejorative for an overly conformational* relation with the world.
FWIW, I've run across a "protestant ethic" ascribed also to the Starovery (russian "old believers"); my current explanation is that whenever a marginal group finds the traditional low-risk cursus closed (whether due to exclusion by the external majority, or to disapproval by their in-group) they tend to reinvest in speculative ventures (and as long as they're doing so jointly, they ought to have sufficient diversification to thrive under this allocation?).
EDIT: a deeper Q from Pietism: to what extent must an organisation behave in ways that are comprehensible to its rank and file? (1984 argues that it's important enough that comprehensibility should override consistency?)
EDIT2: * in order to get "in the world" vs "of the world", we possibly need english prepositions, and definitely need to read John classically, as if the world is clopen and therefore not out of the world equivales in the world. What about the boundary of the world? (yet another open question for Algebraic Theology)
Yes. And communism — esp. the secrecy aspect, in relation to YC/SIGINT.. “waste is inevitable but rivalry is optional” {waste->pleasure,rivalry->reward} in same snowclone, so… universalism, too. And organized skepticism (like those paradoxical games where victory is uncorrelated with effort,motivation,or intent; Simplicitas’ dual, sprezzatura misses the point)
Wont be surprised if Nikolai Feodorovich turns out to have been a crypto-raskolnik all along
>Fyodorov opposed the idea of property of books and ideas and never published anything during his lifetime.
Right. Pietists would not be classified as weird in the Rao taxonomy, so radical pietists sounds just like hypernormal. So who indeed are the proweird antimeritocrats? Practical (entheogenic,texting) sufi-taoists? Such that friendly neighborhood incomprehensibility is very much an organization feature?
Having been engaged by a nearby village to present his philosophy over a three-day series of lectures, Nasruddin started on the first day:
— O Villagers, do you know what I'm about to tell you?
— No, Mullah, we do not!
— Well, I'm certainly not going to waste my time lecturing the ignorant!
and he promptly left on his donkey.
On the second day:
— O Villagers, do you know what I'm about to tell you?
— Yes, Mullah, we do!
— Well, I'm certainly not going to waste my time belabouring the obvious!
and he promptly left on his donkey.
On the third day, the villagers (having stayed up late in conference the night before crafting their strategy) were more excited than ever to hear Nasruddin speak:
— O Villagers, do you know what I'm about to tell you?
— Some of us, Mullah, know, and some do not!
— Excellent! Let those who know instruct those who do not.
and he promptly left on his donkey.
EDIT: "I must grow my granfalloon" says the one who, looking at their pocketwatch, dangles total comp, but the great one attracts (as t->oo) a karass with but a bare hook?
https://archive.org/download/Demian_201305/Demian_text.pdf
“How TM met HKH” backstory summarized for the proles here by yet another Nasr- https://archive.is/3JwSV
So the man called HKH a [Sith?] princebishop there? (No need to find the german edition as TM targeted an american audience)
“Ctrl-f River” will also direct you to the essential bits ;)
And the MCP said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy ⊓-er? And he said, I know not: Am I my meter's keeper? http://cap-lore.com/CapTheory/upenn/Gnosis/Gnosis.html