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Converting to a for-profit changes the tax status of donations. It also voids plausibility for Fair Use exemptions.

I can see large copyright holders lining up with takedowns demanding they revise their originating datasets since there will now be a clear-cut commercial use without license.

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I hope I can join in, as a consumer, because there’s a difference between using the IP I contribute to conversations for a non-profit and a commercial enterprise.

I suspect that if you have ever posted copyrightable material online, you will have valid cause to sue them, as they very obviously have incorporated your work for commercial gain. That said, I unfortunately put your chances of winning in court very low.

And why is it, that winning chances are low? Why do the courts let big tech trample on our rights, but the small man goes to jail or has to pay fines for much much less? And how can this situation be improved?

Hopefully at least in the EU someone will wake up and make better laws or even start applying them to the current situation.

> And how can this situation be improved?

https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/...

A non-profit entity will continue to exist. Likely for the reasons you stated.

Any reasonable court would see right through “well we trained it for the public good, but only we can use it directly”. That’s not really a legal loophole as much as an arrogant ploy. IMO, IANAL

That’s not what happened at all. There’s non-profit and for profit entities have always been selerate. The non-profit didn’t train anything, it invested money in the for profit to “further the mission towards agi” what’s happening now is just the non-profit defeating in OpenAI and turning to other endevours. Which makes a lot of sense since they tried to cut off the head of the for profit entity to take control, o company would like to see that independent of if the specific investor trying to gain control is a non-profit entity or a large investor.

> It also voids plausibility for Fair Use exemptions. I can see large copyright holders lining up with takedowns

I thought so for a moment but then again Meta, Anthropic (I just checked and they have a "for profit and public benefit" status whatever that means), Google or that Musk's thing aren't non-profits, are they ? There are lawsuits in motion for sure but with how it stands today I think ai gets off the hook.

Doesn't make it morally or ethically okay

I'm with you there. I'm just not holding my breath for the current state of law.

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