I want friends too but man, resorting to a chatbot sounds so depressing. Get some hobbies, find activities on Meetup, join a church. So many healthier alternatives. Just requires you to actually do something real.
We're just seeing sparks of AI starting and it's already beating out people for tasks which were thought to be innately unautomatable.
The thing about people is they’re people. They’re different. It can be hard. They’re selfish. But there can be joy in our differences, and real meaning when someone actually cares. Vs a chatbot who is centered around you. It might feel good but it’s not a real relationship of give and take.
I wonder if we will start having people demand we go back to real human porn like in the good old days because it's just not natural to jack it to photo realistic catgirl dominatrices.
> I wonder if we will start having people demand we go back to real human porn like in the good old days because it's just not natural to jack it to photo realistic catgirl dominatrices.
All that to say that, in the future, I think the more likely option is that people begin to treat it as a harmful, addictive substance and, that, hopefully, it becomes much more acceptable to seek out public treatment and support for using it.
I can make the case much more convincingly that food gives basically no intrinsic added value to your life and if most people could press a button to make themselves never eat again, they would.
Or to quote someone who said it much better than I:
If only it were as easy to banish hunger by rubbing my belly.
-Diogenes on public masturbation.What nonsense is this? Do you only eat beans? Eating good food feels fantastic. Why would you want to give it up? Give me a button that lets me eat unlimited amounts of it without consequences, and I'll press that one instantly.
Good-tasting food is one of the most addictive things we have (also evidenced by the ever increasing percentage of people that are obese...)
That's exactly what self pleasuring mentioned above is though?
One could argue the same thing about food, if it was possible to eat a pill that would give you all the nutrients you need and would take your appetite they probably in theory should want to take that pill if they would press a button to stop wanting to self pleasure.
In fact, I think more people would likely want to get their food habits under control since this makes you gain weight and increases risks of certain illnesses. While self pleasuring can be potentially harmful in excess, I don't think it can be exactly as harmful as being addicted to food can be.
Could also say the same for sleep.
You're projecting.
We go outside. Hang out with people. Form meaningful relationships. Biking. Hiking. Have fun. Enjoyment. Fulfillment.
Loneliness and stress are killers. Digital simulation aint no solution.
May I introduce you to the exponential function?
It's a little something that's been carrying the whole field of digital computers on it's back since the 1970s.
Whatever the case, we’re certainly nowhere close at the moment.
If this is so dependably true, then why does this population still suffer loneliness? How many hours of your day do you devote to zoom chats with lonely old people?
I ultimately support your side of the debate - that digital simulation is not a true medicine - but without being honest about humans and human nature, you create empty arguments.
Some in this thread call pornography useless, call cigarettes useless, call drugs useless. However those products are used endlessly and with great satisfaction by billions of humans throughout thousands of years. It's simply not true - these things are useful to humans, quite obviously.
What causes this puritanical disposition regarding human needs and satisfaction while also literally arguing for humanism vs synthetic encroachment? Without acknowledgement of what humans actually are we won't find a real reason that AI chatbots shouldn't replace them.
You speak as if the "real world" for a bedridden and lonely individual is something that they should just endure and enjoy, but you would never choose to switch places with such a person.
I'm very curious to these harsh negative reactions to solving a bit of loneliness with a chatbot.
1. Read the study.
2. I don't think this is suggested to be a permanent solution.
3. Some people suffer from chronic loneliness, and these negative reactions could possibly prevent others from seeking the help they need. In other words, if I'm lonely, I would not want to talk to these people because they do not seem sympathetic. Yet a chatbot is. Huh.