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Do we really need to have this discussion in every thread about LLMs?

As long as AI-bros are pushing for making AI models seem like more than they are to pad their wallets, there'll be someone like me pointing out that, no, it's not "hallucinating", it's spitting bad data.

I know lots of people working on AI. they are among the least bro-y group of people I have ever met.

There is simply nothing similar to actual bro-y finance culture among AI research engineers. It is entirely a figment of the media and backreaction that we currently have to portray everyone we don’t like as a “bro” - truth be damned.

no - the cliques are different but linked at the hip. Add international finance, too.. India, China and others.

whatever your information diet is, i recommend you change it

You're being pedantic. Your statement that "it's spitting bad data" is incorrect too, as it implies agency. Actually, nothing is happening but electrons flowing. The notion of an "it" that "spits" "data" which is "bad" is your own conceptual overlay.

Tbf, if you assume humans have agency, there’s plenty of people who would claim you’re making the same mistake because the reductionist view is that people are just either deterministic chemical soup (or maybe with a bit of randomness baked in).

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