As have the Israeli citizens who have been subject to indiscriminate rocket attacks over the last 11 months from Hezbollah. Personally,If had the choice between enduring rockets versus not taking a pager on a flight, I’d prefer the pager ban.
It rains something like 2 inches a year there. People collecting rain water someplace with so little rain are likely quite desperate.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/11/the-occu...
I wish there wasn't so much conflict but sometimes the people resorting to violence have been essentially left with no other meaningful solution. People with power can politely ruin your life and murder you and yours and then claim you are the bad guy when you fight back less politely.
Saying conflict between Israel and Lebanon is wholly unrelated to conflict between Israel and Gaza is like saying stuff happening in the US state of Georgia has nothing to do with its neighbor Alabama.
I'm failing to readily find an online blurb that supports my understanding. But that detail fails to convince me my understanding is wholly in error.
Depending on how you look at this, you can even call it a proxy war as Hezbollah is supported by Iran. Curiously (or not), one of those injured by the pagers blowing up was the Iranian ambassador... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-ambassador-l...
Most people on the Internet are looking to win an argument, not engage in discussion. I appreciate your comment as it adds information rather than picking a fight, but I'm somewhat inclined to step away from this nonsense at this point.
You are right - the conflict in Lebanon is related to the conflict in Gaza. That is because despite efforts to frame the conflict as "Israel against 2 million poor Palestinians" the real conflict is "2 billion Muslims against Israel". Every time we have a conflict with one of them, the others jump in to attack us. What's worse, they deliberately keep the Palestinians impoverished and suffering to fester conflict - they say this blatantly. The Palestinian cause is not about creating a state to care for the Palestinian people. The Palestinian cause is about creating an Islamic state to displace the Jewish state, and the Palestinian people are the tool to use to pressure the Jewish state and other interested states. They say this clearly - both the Palestinians and the other Arab nations. But that line is so different from Western line of thinking that I know you find it incredible. I implore you to simply read what they themselves say.
At the moment, they are in horrendous crisis, the most obvious and immediate cause of that is Israel and Israel is effectively cooperating with the (according to you) Islamic agenda of painting them as the bad guy so they have a good excuse to exterminate them.
I'm an environmental studies major. I've read for years that our next wars will be fought over water. It looks to me like that's what we are seeing in Gaza.
Water is life. You can't survive without it. Politics aside, if Gaza can't get adequate water to survive, well, most organisms have a survival instinct and will fight like a cornered rat when given no viable means to survive while playing nice with their neighbors.
They've been trying to kill each other for years, even when they had other solutions and when Israel was the underdog. The difference in power now is huge, but it's always the same story... if some on both sides had their way, the other side would be wiped without a thought.
They’ve been at this since biblical times.
This is an ongoing culture war like Sunni vs Shia or Protestant vs Catholic.
The original people involved in the fight are long dead from old age, replaced by generation after generation claiming to be the victim (on both sides, of course).
This is why it’s best to stay out of it and watch from a safe distance. There is no right or wrong, good vs evil, victim and oppressor. It’s A vs B, cats vs dogs, my sports team vs your sports team.
Israel happens to have the technological edge at the moment, but that’s after a couple of thousand years of being a powerless diaspora victim to oppression and actual genocide.
Conversely, their opponents cry victim while we all full well know that if they got the military upper hand they’d do to the Israelis the same or worse.
It’s depressing to see this from the outside, watching the long term damage wrought by what amounts to mind viruses.
That’s all religions are: particularly addictive memes. Memes that kill hosts to protect themselves from other memes.
If you’ve picked a side, you’ve picked a meme you’d like to be infected by.
I prefer the vaccine.
It serves the interests of the US to have a reliable ally in the region. Previously to the US fracking revolution, Middle East oil was very important to the oil supply for US allies.
Of course now oil has less geopolitical importance and the US has no great interest in protecting Asian-European trade we'll see how far that partnership will continue.
1. That is a completely different subject - Beirut is in Lebanon, not Gaza.
2. Israel _supplies_ Gaza with water. So Israel controls the water supply in Gaza just like your own water company supplies you with water. And if you were to walk into the offices of the water company and burn the workers' children to death and murder them and kidnap them, well, don't be surprised if they turn off your water supply.
That's like saying "The US supplies Mexico with water" because the Colorado River originates in the US and the mouth of it is on Mexican soil. Reality: America does all in its power to give as little water as possible to Mexico and the water that reaches the Gulf is a mere trickle, having been largely syphoned off by multiple US states before that point.
What I've read indicates Israel controls the water supply to Gaza and uses and abuses that fact in a hostile fashion.
I don't intend to single you out, and this goes for everyone posting about some far away region that's a bit more complex than what this or that source claims. I guess it's a matter of personality, but I don't feel comfortable talking about politics of far away regions, or even of my own region in some areas. I would rather talk about the simple easy stuff that I feel confident about, like this weird paragraph in the latest C++ standard. Then I wouldn't make embarrassing claims that are basically pre-chewed propaganda for the usefully ignorant foreigners. Except the Rust people. They are the devil!
And that's not even talking about all the water we've horrifically polluted.
Some stupid Israeli politicians tried to stop that water supply claiming that it's insane to provide your enemy with resources during war (Israel also supplies electricity and fuel to Gaza, both are used in the Hamas tunnels to pump in air). Unfortunately, this stupidity by the current government became the basis of the stuff you're repeating.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_crisis_in_the_Gaza...
No one who works for them is a "civilian". One of the "victims" is an Iranian ambassador to Syria. This shows you who Hezbollah really is. They are an Iranian puppet working against the interest of the Lebanese people dragging them into a war they don't want with Israel. They are hiding behind civilian populace and avoiding the "price" of their actions. This was the first time where these a*holes actually paid a price for their actions, for putting the people of Lebanon at such risk.
Calling Hezbollah a "political party" is akin to calling the Nazi party a political party. Technically true, but also deeply misleading.
Likud is a terrorist organization that killed thousands of Palestinians through the IDF. Not to mention Frenchmen, Americans, and Arabs. Their forces recently bombed schools, refugee centers, and other "safe" zones in Gaza. They've fired indiscriminately at reporters and humanitarian aid groups. The party's espoused policy is against statehood for Palestinians and instead encourage settlement of their territory, even through violence.
This tired reply can't be used as rebuttal to any & everything. Eye for an eye is no praxis at all.