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its more like, if you know what you're doing.

I started seeing the trickle of bootcamp grads coming in maybe 7-8 years ago. Many of them were just as good as the CS grads. They have no issue finding new jobs today, some are even at FAANG

Someone who went from bootcamp to coding 6 years ago shouldn't have any issue finding a coding job today, if they're actually good and progressed over those 6 years and have worked a year or 2 as a senior engineer at a good/known company. My guess is they aren't

Companies today want people who can hit the ground running. Less jobs for juniors, less jobs for ramping up within 3-4 months.

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> They have no issue finding new jobs today, some are even at FAANG

I went this way and then later taught at a bootcamp, so my network is heavily skewed towards this kind of engineer. It is not true that they have no issue finding jobs. The very few that ended up at big tech companies, or who have a prestigious non-tech degree, are mostly doing fine.

The ones who just got normal developer jobs at normal non-famous companies are having a hard time from what I know of my personal connections. They were more likely to get laid off and less likely to have found something else after, or are stuck in their current role because they can't even get interviews. And I mean the 2015-2018 bootcamp cohorts, firmly mid-level with 5+ years experience. I don't have many connections to the newer waves of code school grads and am not talking about them.

I think the other commenter is basically correct. The time when you could have a secure development career without a degree quietly ended over the last couple years.

> its more like, if you know what you're doing.

You're right!

I'd take a risk on hiring a non-traditional student who taught themselves to code and is a maintainer of a decent sized OSS project. Not on a bootcamp grad with no coding experience outside of the bootcamp.

> Companies today want people who can hit the ground running. Less jobs for juniors, less jobs for ramping up within 3-4 months.

Exactly. And I can confirm that.

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