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Comment by Calvin02 | Hacker News Reader

Doesn’t Threads and Fediverse indicate that they are headed that way for social as well?

The last time we had a corporate romance between an open source protocol/project, "XMPP + Gtalk/Facebook = <3", XMPP was crappy and it was moving too slowly to the mobile age. Gtalk/Messenger gave up on XMPP and evolved their own protocols and stopped federating with the "legacy" one.

I think the success of the "Threads + Fediverse = <3" relies on the Fediverse not throwing the towel and leaving Threads as the biggest player in the space. That would mean fixing a lot of problems that that people have with Activity Pub today.

I don't want to say the big tech are awesome and without fault, but at the end of the day big-techs will be big-techs. Let's keep the Fediverse relevant and Meta will continue to support it, otherwise it will be swallowed by the bigger fish.

For some reason, this has made me wonder if we just need more non-classical-social-media fediverse stuff. Like of course people will glom on to Threads, it means they can interact with the network while still being inside Facebook’s walled garden…

I wonder if video game engines could use it as an alternative to Steam or Discord integration.

The problem was not that it was not evolving. The problem was that they decided they had trapped all the users of other networks they could trap.

Slack did the same killing xmpp and irc bridge. I don't see them making a matrix bridge.

Last I checked, there was a movement in the biggest instances to defederate from meta's embrace stage of "embrace extend extinguish" playbook. I didn't check back to see if it got pushed through.

Given the nature of the fediverse, if it happened or not depends on the instance you use/follow.

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