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> Glad to see these guys out the job and production moving to the Carolinas

Here's an idea: let them compete. Seattle versus North Charleston. I quite literally don't know if I agree with your or not, but that's the point--none of you, I or a dickwad in Chicago or D.C. should be making that call unilaterally. The market should. Split them up and return us to the competition that built America's golden age of aviation.

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You'll have to break up the FAA first. The certification costs are ungodly, rigid, and the certification process created fascistic interweaving of industry with government.

To break the monopoly, counterintuitively, we have to deregulate Boeing.

> You'll have to break up the FAA first. The certification costs are ungodly, rigid, and the certification process created fascistic interweaving of industry with government

Why do you need to break up the FAA to simplify certification?

The golden age of flight had not only competition of manufacture, but competition from consumers and purchasers on risk appetite. It could not emerge under an FAA as we know it. To come anywhere near that you'd need to break up the FAA, as it has a virtual monopoly on violence in enforcing the CFRs here. Let people pick which, if any enforcer they want certifying their airplanes.

That is, the FAA suffers from the same lack of competition as Boeing.

The golden age of flight splattered the blood of professionals and innocents alike to write those regulations.

Flight is not for cowboys.

You can't count all the dead from flight being held back FAA. It's similar with housing regulations -- the code inspector sees dead in a house but not the 10 homeless people he killed by making housing less accessible.

How would insufficient ability to make more dangerous planes kill anyone? By what mechanism? Who, for example? What are you even talking about?

One example is FAA balking at certifying evtols for years after they started to emerge. They're dangerous but could allow more accessible rescue options for people already in a dangerous survival situation, or need a fast ride to a hospital.

Invisible hand of the market would catch passengers mid air

The golden age of flight had ~100x the fatal accident rate that we do today.

No thanks.

The FAA broke itself up already. They allowed Boeing to self certify.

Seems Boeing effectively became part of the FAA. I've produced and designed experimental aircraft. The FAA made it clear they would not certify it, simply wasn't legal since it wasn't contemplated under any certifiable title in the CFRs other than experimental.

Airbus seems to be doing just fine, including their final assembly lines in the US.

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