Interview Learnings from Former CIA Intelligence Officer
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The other are those who after seeing the belly of the beast,want nothing to do with it other than be left alone or help people escape the horrible beast the federal government has become. They have seen the murders first hand, and rejected the premise.
I have no idea what relevance any of this has to the present HN post, though.
curios though
"I think you will find it's a bit more complicated than that".
Sometimes they're astoundingly obvious and oblivious to the obviousness. I wonder why that is?
I wonder if the answer to why they behave like you are wondering, is that the people who aren’t very good at it, behave that way because they’re so focused on trying to get something.
There’s an interview with Jim Lawler where he touches upon those same techniques. While I do think there’s still a level of … trying to get something (I think it comes across as sociopathy to some people ), I think the people who are more skilled try to get nothing (or appear to initially) and build social connection seemingly for the sake of social connection. Where it becomes hard (even for them?) to distinguish the difference.
It can be difficult because almost everyone has an agenda, but you can choose to put it on the back burner.
Good sales people simply get to know and have relationships with a lot of people.
Eg, a salesman from LPKF happily traded emails with me after a decade of not speaking and only meeting a few times about a project idea I had… and when it became clear their product wasn’t a fit, offered to connect me with someone else in his network that would be better able to help. I don’t think he seemingly was interested, but rather, LPKF chose to hire someone who is actually interested in getting to know people and helping their projects succeed.
LPKF would have easily closed a sale with me, had their product been a fit — because if you’re someone people want to do business with, good products sell themselves. And people like doing business with people who help them.
I’m not saying there aren’t manipulative and fake sales people; but I am saying there are sales people who genuinely are just trying to make friends and do good business.
But... I think it's more game-theory-esque where when you are playing many games you can't afford to defect or cooperate all the time. So the ideal strategy is to convince yourself your an honest person, focused on the customer, doing the right thing, but actually you just let your cognitive dissonance provide excuses for the handful of situations where you don't do that. If you cooperate in the majority of your interactions but defect rarely, that's likely the optimal pattern. Also, i don't really think you can train yourself into this pattern. It requires actually wanting to do the good thing, but sometimes not doing it, but still convincing yourself it is the good thing without being conscious of it.
When I think of the people who I know who are excellent at sales, what they’re really excellent at is relationship building, and they’re always pass on trying to sell something if they know it isn’t the right fit for the person/ business. Going so far as to recommend / build other connections.
The seemingly I had added was in my mind in the hypothetical context of someone working on behalf of a nation state actor. However, even then the seemingly might be incorrect… reading interviews from people who seem to have been top in their field, the “trick” seemed to be that there was no coercion involved with the most effective outcomes.
https://spyauthor.medium.com/mice-the-4-pillars-of-cia-spy-r...
On second thought, maybe it was inferred from the section Detecting Lies.
"For you to be a step ahead of everyone else just do an action, any action, and you’ll already be ahead of everyone. "
This sounds like it was taken from the episode of the office.
I would guess the real CIA loves these guys. This kind of talk would be the perfect misdirection for the real thing.
But it was interesting anyway; after decades of reading in English and years of working and daily communicating in English, I thought I had seen it all :D
A lesson is one packet of content with specific goals for use in teaching, possibly as part of a bigger curriculum.
Learnings, then, can be the knowledge discovered through experiences.
Lesson: something learned by study or experience
If you're looking for a distinction between learning and lesson, this is the distinction you want.
"Borat! Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan"
There's a perfectly cromulent word for things people have learned, they're called "lessons".