US Postal Service delays threaten to disrupt election voting, officials say
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We claim voting is so important yet we can’t seem to be able to fix aspects of it that other, more resource constrained countries managed.
After landing on the moon we shouldn’t be bickering and arguing who voted and who didn’t, and if there was fraud or not.
IDs should be free and available to every voter. There should be a federal voting holiday, because it’s an important event.
We definitely have enough resources to give everyone free IDs and record if they voted. We can even afford free public transportation for that day. We can afford not working one extra day a year.
https://gspp.berkeley.edu/research-and-impact/policy-initiat...
That’s what the studies linked seem to focus on? About half of them are inconclusive. The first one had data errors.
That’s why issuing free cards should solve the problem. India with a much larger population with more disadvantaged people solved it but here we are still arguing about it.
The problem they're trying to solve is ballot access by people who won't vote with them. Here in Texas, the AG is suing any organization who's trying to register voters in liberal areas. [2]
[1] https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/ with context by https://www.brookings.edu/articles/widespread-election-fraud... [2] https://www.texastribune.org/2024/09/06/texas-ken-paxton-tra...
When a mail piece gets stuck or lost, there's no way to get help. USPS staff is generally unhelpful. It's a disaster.
I've found USPS to be like the VA. They're excellent for us (W.Cent.FL). Other regions have horror stories.
Most of my USPS stories are very positive. The 1 or 2 protracted issues were resolved well - even if the gears ground somewhat slowly.
One of my clients is a web retailer. I grabbed a quick look at their shipment notifications back to June and didn't spot any USPS delivery issues. It's all small parcels so maybe that's a factor.
I suspect the primary issue is that there are simply way less people willing to work as letter carriers. The pay has not scaled and you're working long hours, Monday through Saturday. Not exactly a dream job.
This describes my federal job. I wonder how many other federal jobs are like this. My coworkers used to put up with the stress/schedule/etc, but now the pay does not outweigh the cons. I foresee the industry I'm working in, becoming a shitshow; I wonder what other industries will follow suit.
A family member of mine works for the post office in their city. They don't have trouble hiring for any positions. There is a long waiting list that takes months to get through to be given a chance at the bottom of the totem pole. The various postal unions give the jobs good benefits, pay, hours, etc. Carriers specifically are highly sought-after positions that can set you up for life.
It's not a matter of not being able to find people. it's not willing to hire more people. I would be very surprised if the post office in your town is trying to hire people, but nobody is willing to work. It's a great job, and people line up to work there.
We thought there was no legal way to do a lot of things that Trump did, yet he did them anyway. Turns out a lot of things we thought were "laws" were either regulations subject to repeal or modification by executive order, or just "guidelines" or "gentlemens' agreements" that were always open to abuse by anyone willing to cast tradition aside for the sake of expediency. It's ironic that only the conservatives are willing to do that these days.
For reference I got this message two days after Super Tuesday 2024, two days after the November 8th election in 2022, and two days after the Summer 2022 elections. There’s also a website I can check to see if my ballots were Accepted or not going all the way back to the 2016 General Election.
Why not just do that?
Regarding provisional ballots, I have yet to see any evidence that double-counting is an issue, and if you cast one, there’s a toll line you can call per the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to check on your ballot. From my own State’s Secretary of State website (https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voting-resources/provisiona...):
> The Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA) requires each state or local elections official to establish a "Free Access System," such as a toll-free telephone number for voters to call or an Internet website that voters can access free of charge, to ascertain if they voted a provisional ballot at the polls, whether or not their vote was counted, and, if it was not counted, the reason why it was not counted.
Other than having to verify the ballot cast is valid in the county, provisional ballots are just counted during the canvassing process.
> and challenging the results is not straight forward, very contentious and political for no reason.
Election night lawsuits happen all across the country any time a campaign wants to challenge any election irregularities they come across. Yeah it’s political, but it’s also lawful and courts are setup to accept these challenges, often under an expedited process. This is as much a cornerstone of American democracy as the secret ballot, I wouldn’t get worked up about it like some do.
> All states should have immediate provable results with redundancy checks.
This would be nice but balancing it with the secret ballot and with the general distrust people have to rely entirely on computers which can be compromised and thus a need to retain the human accountability factor, we’re not there yet. Maybe someday.
My State has some more information on its own process here: https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/upcoming-elections/vote-cou...
However I wanted to highlight the following three paragraphs for you:
> Election results posted on Election Night are semi-official results based on the in-person ballots cast at voting locations on Election Day, any early voted ballots cast in person prior to Election Day, and any vote-by-mail ballots received and processed prior to Election Day.
> The complete tally of votes is never finished on Election Night as vote-by-mail ballots postmarked on or before Election Day and received within seven days after the election, as well as any provisional ballots cast, must still be counted. These ballots are always counted during the official canvass period in the 30 days after Election Day.
> While media outlets and others may “call” an election contest, or candidates may “concede” to their opponent, on Election Night or the in days following, these calls and concessions are based on the semi-official results and not the final election results. The election results are never final until the Secretary of State has compiled the official statewide results after all county elections officials have reported their official canvass of the votes.
I feel like people just kind of forget that the election is never technically finished on election night itself. While there’s a lot of emphasis on calling it for one candidate or another and the media usually gets it right on the night of the election, their calls are not the actual results, they’re the presumed the results with available information.
> These ballots are always counted during the official canvass period in the 30 days after Election Day.
How is this not an issue when it comes to trusting an election? If elections come down to a few thousand votes (per swing state), then even a small margin of error has a chance of casting huge amounts of doubt on who the real winner is. This already happened in 2000, and again in 2020, yet somehow it doesn't seem like a priority issue.
We can talk about all the technicalities but at the end of the day it's about reassuring the entire population that the votes are legitimate and valid. This is more than just having a process. That process has to be efficient, and extending the official results for weeks and months does not accomplish that. You don't have to be cynical to see that the more inefficient the counting is, the less trust there is in the election results, and it all contributes to political turmoil and civil unrest.
But hey, if we were to massively cut down on the number of elected positions, force political parties to spend their own money running their own primaries and eliminate ballot initiatives, that would also make elections more efficient. I’d like that.
Beyond the obviously concerning impact in the US domestically, I’m mail voting in my own country’s elections, and this year will probably mark the second election I’ll miss because of the USPS’s current state.