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They should absolutely be pushing the OEM gaming market. Every low end 600-900$ pc should be bundled with a Radeon and not a 4060. If they can hit that for a couple years they will be king of the hill eventually because all developers will have to test and optimize for amd. Then it’s just a matter of rolling out a high end card to take advantage.

The problem for AMD is that the 4060 mobile is an absolute killer laptop card. AMD needs a low power consumption high power apu to compete.

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Not if the rest of the PC market goes the way of Apple - where with M chips you dob’t need a separate card to do decent gaming

Because you won't be gaming at all on a Mac? Surely this is satire.

Yeah, kolinko really missed the whole "competitive APU" part of OP's comment. AMD has been pushing "The future is Fusion" and shipping CPU/GPU combined chips that fit in your normal CPU socket (or BGA soldered to a board) since 2011.

It did take from basically 2007 to 2011 to do the design and many dev runs through what is now Global Foundaries as the way GPUs are produced when manufactured into silicon by a foundry is fairly different than CPUs, so finding a working medium between those two processes took many failed attempts, pretty surprising they were able to do it in less than half a decade!

There is a very healthy Mac gaming community. There are many ways to get even a lot of quadruple A games to run on osx.

Also soon the asahi graphics driver will run vulkan and fex has seen great improvements recently. It wouldn't surprise me you can get steamdeck levels of compatibility with games.

Shared gpu and cpu apus may be the future especially with ai cores being part of the mix. But they need to be faster then they currently are and I’m not sure the additional cost of faster memory is worthwhile at anything past the lowest tier performance. It seems like to achieve the desired performance it may be necessary to move the memory on chip which will make the chips way more expensive

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