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> So that no rabbit would sign up in the first place.

I liked Добро пожаловать, или Посторонним вход воспрещён (1964), in which the summer camp director plays a very soviet version of an Eric Berne Transactional Analysis* game, "Everything I do, I do it for you".

According to wikipedia, it's infamous in russian for the lines:

— Children, remember! You all are the owners of the camp. [All of] you! What do you all [therefore] need?

— [children in chorus] Di. Sci. Pline!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_V2HgK6i8

Thx for Equoid! Not having started in on it yet, all I have for now is pedantry, for the commenters on Stross' blog who are making horse analogies (as well as the wonderful Unicorns From Hell vid) are way off base: horses are Perissodactyl, but unicorns are Artiodactyl.

* I'm not sold on TA, but learning to tune out as soon as you notice the opening moves of a TA game? That's sanity-preserving material right there.

PS. I've lost the source for the roman trichotomy; plz remind?

[PS] B Russell, In Praise of Idleness

Aha, I'd been remembering types I/II but forgotten about III — now that I'm reminded, it's time to rewatch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPPpjU1UeAo .

Currently trying to read^W skim Pynchon’s buddy Farina to get an 1960s inside outsider’s perspective on that..

>the second kind is capable of indefinite extension

Rather i took the hint from here. But his third class does seem to have some overlap with [my intended] type IIIs. E.g. (esp?) technicals from the cadet branches who feel (attribute guilt? stereotype threat?) the need to do some legacy-laundering..

(Compare with the social origins of SPJ)

Stronger connection to founder mode is that YC is in their own words (having a hard time locating exact quote) modelled after Harvard. So while the coarse-grained view from the POV of hoi polloi does look like your music video, our “local deities” were inside-outsiders, once upon a time in New England (as well as Ithacan transplants, for a couple of them)

OK, technicals, even cadet technicals, don't fall into my type III, precisely because they tend to stay active (although then they choose projects by interest instead of profitability).

For me, type III starts when one can not only stay in bed all monday and tuesday, but even go sailing across the pacific, without impacting one's income stream in any way — and is confirmed when one actually does so. ("Did nothing in particular / And did it very well")

The circles which I find are enriched in these type IIIs are also very geek-poor.

I think HN's stereotype of financial independence is of someone who's made a successful exit, but (or is this just my parochialism talking?) imx most of my type IIIs were born with it or married into it.

(BTW, I have trad Sand Hill experience, and therefore only the haziest idea of YC. I've been holding off on another, "riding herd", model of what I suspect may be a different sol'n to bigco hires than founder mode, because it'll take a great deal of explanation, but maybe if you're willing to explain the distinctive parts of YC to me I can attempt to explain why I think it's possible bigco hires could very well have been successful under a two-decades-of-sales CEO but tank under leadership that came up through engineering — if so, there's another [imnsho better] alternative to founder mode)

EDIT: http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/farina.html

> On weeknights they had to be inside these places by something like 11 P.M., at which time all the doors were locked.

I'm not even close to that old, and I've been kicked out of a women's dorm because they were locking the doors.

Compare the concierge's (knowing but ironically ignorant) smile, at Lydia's dorm in Наваждение(1965)!

Ive known a maybe a half a dozen of born into money types who have technical obsessions. Imagine the Duke of Montrose still hacking his own lisp while VCing on the side to compliment his hobbies. (The guy who built the titan sub also comes to mind). Plan was to lasso some type of liminal nerd, approximating weirdpro gentlemen scientists of our neoEdwardian age?

(BTW)

most distinctive part is that the first gen, and maybe the 3rd gen*, take time out to consider whether things are still working in theory. But i suspect you only care about the practice.

*https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxapm9Ekdz3_kiyvo_14pOzNY_cga...

(Another “lazy” response)

An insanity inducing game that i’ve sometimes had the misfortune of playing is when I try to discern whether a particularly hard-to-parse paper by people i only know in passing in my subsubsubsubsubdomain (classified by dot product of tags) in a highish impact journal is spam or advertising. Wondering if that feeling approximates what you feel when encountering Yarvin. (Luckily, these havent ever appeared on the HN fp - but there were a few close calls)

Yeah, I think so — I'm guessing he's far more vibe than argument, and I'm failing to resonate with the vibe, so it just feels like static?

re: Farina I'm guessing you're younger but if you were ever around SV during Sun's heyday, John Sundman has a half SF-thriller/half roman à clef. His non-African foreign settings* are a bit cringe, but his Bay Area and Boston are spot on.

* "And [it] was very calm. No-one was being oppressed." — exactly

Thx for both!

That was the best blurb anybody could have written. Lumper, in my mind, is now a 50’s pinup candidate..

How does he describe Lumper?

My current 50's diafilmy-crush is Anya Zagolina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF3V0Uiof5s&t=2851s

   She had a slow machine
   She kept her motor clean

(her tractor there is a Kirovets, but which model?)

Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU2miApn-Ww

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