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> 10 steps negotiating with obscure Pune team that I need to chase 10x

why are you doing the chasing? unless you're the project manager, comment "blocked by obscure pune team" on the ticket and move on

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In my experience, PMs rarely do the chasing down for you. Most of them ask why you're still blocked and if you've done anything about it. Even if they do do something to chase them down, you're still on the hook for the deadlines.

so you're saying PMs are not doing their job? and then you have to do the actual project managing? not ideal for you, very cushy job for them.

It's a popular grifter role for a reason.

The PM I work with most of the time introduced himself as "the next Elon Musk", so your assessment fits

This is an unfortunate attitude. The current state of things in our industry is a reflection of this “not my job” way of doing things.

We can call it job specialisation. I don't do project managing, I do coding. Not my business to coordinate everyone, my job is to write code.

My job is typically to deliver features that make the company money. The writing of code is just a part of that.

In my experience the people who solely focus on the code end up being significantly less effective.

> to deliver features

ah, see, so your job description includes, besides being a dev, also being a project manager. that's fine, there's nothing bad about it, it's just that your job requires a bit more from you than other places.

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