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There's no way that people cannot tell the difference, I can with various streaming methods from my pc to my shield/tv, with wire in the same house. Mouse to photon latency of a good pc will be in the range of 10-20ms, best case you're doubling or tripling that.

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I can feel 40ms for sure and there’s no way you play a competitive shooter with a 40ms delay. Hell even a Bluetooth mouse gets annoying.

Maybe if you’re playing Microsoft Office it’s ok.

Nah to be fair it's fine for a lot of games which are also played on old gen consoles with terrible gamepad to TV latency. Sure twitchy multiplayers are definitely not some of them. I'm not big on competitive multiplayer, only Rocket League and I can't do this over local streaming. Pretty much anything else I play is ok though.

You, my dear Internet friend, are confidently expressing your lack of experience. No one who has played multiplayer LAN games, or low latency Internet games, could or would ever say that streaming gaming, such as the dead stadia, or moonlight, whatever, are comparable to the alternative, Nah, they couldn't.

I don't think that I could feel the difference between 40ms and 10ms RTT when playing something like DOTA2 or AoE2.

Most online games use client side prediction, so any input made by the client happens almost instantly on the client and it feels really good, and can be rollbacked if the server disagrees. If you stream your game remote with 40ms it will add 40ms to your input and that just feels bad (not to mention jitter, especially if you're on semi-congested wifi), but its not unplayable or even that noticeable in many games. Would I play some casual Dota like that? Sure. But not high ranked games.

You conflate local streaming vs internet streaming, and I specifically excluded twitchy multiplayer games...

yeah, I just feel the lag and everything, even on monitors claiming 1ms I can feel it while playing FPS and it is really annoying to me if game is not fluent I will not play it

> Maybe if you’re playing Microsoft Office it’s ok.

You're not going to be able to do the best combos with that kind of latency, but I guess it's ok for mid-level play.

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