Comment by jakogut | Hacker News Reader

Comment by jakogut | Hacker News Reader

You can still save quite a bit by bundling your application in an initramfs linked into the kernel, which obviates the needs for any filesystem mounts in simple cases.

In some cases, you can even replace something like BusyBox init with a simple bash script that does the bare minimum to boot your application. Mounting devtmpfs, proc, sysfs, etc. Dumping glibc is also worth exploring, if feasible.

Chroot is a good tool to test your initramfs and see if all the necessary application dependencies are present before bundling it into the kernel. If you can run it in a chroot, the kernel can run it during boot, and the development loop is much tighter.

Disabling kernel modules and enabling only the features needed linked into the kernel will save further space and boot time.

It would also be helpful to test zstd compression instead of gzip.

On the flip side of this, if your kernel + initramfs is being loaded slowly (either the previous boot stage and is not using the hardware at its full capacity or the image is large enough that it would be better to do something else in parallel with loading the image), then having the smallest practical image that can load the remaining software after userspace starts can be faster.

Absolutely, there's a point of size and complexity where trying to bundle everything into an initramfs image is counter-productive.

One example of loading the kernel and initramfs slowly is netbooting over TFTP. You're better off with a smaller kernel that can load the rest of the rootfs over a faster protocol, i.e. NFS, NBD, iSCSI, etc. Alternatively, you can load a bootloader that supports a faster protocol, such as GRUB, which can load the kernel binary over HTTP.

You actually don't need a shell script to mount the different pseudo filesystems. You can do that in your application. So all that remains is an initramfs with a statically linked binary.

Very true, you can call into the C library or use system calls directly and have your application do all the init itself.

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