Comment by rolph | Hacker News Reader

Comment by rolph | Hacker News Reader

i really wish the scarewords like darkweb would go away.

the internet is not google, no amount of sand over the head or in the eyes will change that.

Columbus officials chose to invalidate threat to public safety by way of misinformation, then retaliate when the threat and true situation was revealed.

keeping people ignorant of threatscape is not good government.

thinking the 'darkweb' is some sort of containment by obscurity, is beyond naive.

the city of columbus is actually inhibiting a proper response and perpetuating a cavalier security stance.

this is not going unnoticed.

[1] [This is a bigger issue here': Columbus resident wishes the city told residents about the data breach sooner]

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/columbus-woman-wishe...

[2] Second class-action lawsuit, representing police and firefighters, filed against city after cyberattack

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/second-class-action-...

[3] Ginther confirms personal information of Columbus residents exposed in cyberattack

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/ginther-press-confer...

Point, point, point, point, point, Game, set, Match.

"this is not going unnoticed." Oh thank god!

"the city of Columbus is actually inhibiting a proper response and perpetuating a cavalier security stance."

"On Aug. 13, Mayor Andrew Ginther said the data stolen by hackers was either corrupted or encrypted, meaning it was likely useless. Hours later, Goodwolf told 10TV that wasn't true and he showed what kind of personal information he was able to access"

"City officials announced they are providing free credit monitoring to Columbus and Franklin County Municipal Court Clerk employees and judges and have asked city employees to use different passwords for their accounts."

Elvis and common sense has left the building.

https://schneiderdowns.com/our-thoughts-on/city-of-columbus-...

Appreciate the breakdown! Sounds like the typical cover-up, where it's honest disclosure (in appearance), until it slowly works its way out that it was far more severe than reported, and suddenly we're offering free credit monitoring.

I'm not sure how much data was exposed, but I've recently gotten a warning from Ticketmaster that my SSN (US social security number) was exposed. I absolutely did not provide that information, so it's either an outright lie, or there's a lot more sharing going on behind the scenes than the standard public is to believe.

As far as I can tell, darkweb has no actual meaning anymore anyway.

I saw an article recently claiming that something like 80% of people under 30 access the dark web at least once a week. 80% of under-30s use Tor? Seems highly unlikely.

My understanding is it merely meant sites not indexed by search engines. Your employers internal websites or the sites for your college coursework would count.

Don't forget bit torrent. There are teenagers out there committing several world GDP worth of piracy on the daily if you believe the entertainment industry

"Not indexed" is the deep web. The dark web is ones that use alternate protocols on top of the web so they can't be indexed by web search engines (includes things like Tor and Discord).

I suppose ones that require authentication (like internal employer sites) could also be dark web.

Surely Discord can't be counted as dark web? It's not web at all.

Sure it is. I open my web browser, and Discord is in it.

It's definitely hidden behind a login, and is often the source of many controversies including underage users, where it's easier for predators to groom and prey upon these kids. Trying to figure out a label such as "dark web" is less about the actual definition, and more about the intention behind the technology (IMO, of course).

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