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> Nuclear fuel, even with all the processing costs included, only comes to about US$1,663 per kilogram (2.2 lb). Because nuclear fuel has such an incredible energy density, that's about 0.46 ¢/kWh – and the fuel costs keep dropping as the technology becomes more efficient.

That’s…not actually cheap? As a consumer, I pay less than half that per kWh delivered at peak hours.

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You might mix up Cent and Euro/Dollar here.

Even the cheapest way to produce electricity nowadays (PV) isn't below 1 cent/kWh (production, not end-user costs) yet and your quote refers to only the costs of the fuel itself.

I suspect you pay less than half of 0.46 $/kWh but not less than half of 0.46 ¢/kWh.

Ah, you’re correct; I misread this as fractions of a dollar, not cents.

I think you misread, or do you really pay less than half a cent per kWh?

Yes, the fuel costs less than half a cent per kWh. All the other costs dominate.

At peak hours (as in peak wind) energy cost is regularly negative. Looking at it this way will kill any energy business case.

If your wind/solar energy pricing goes negative, you're not using enough storage. Build more batteries, suck up that excess energy, and maximize feeding back to the grid when on-demand prices are high.

Is already happening for over a year. PV sales is down by 90%, last year there was a sellout of PV companies on brookz.nl and this year they are going mostly bankrupt.

Consumers are now having a PV problem because they have to pay for their panels (I was asked to pay 800 euro per year). So, there is the incentive for many consumers willing to purchase a battery.

An alternative solution is the position of the panels. It is useless to have panels facing south, and don't use the roof, use the facade to improve the off season performance.

Are consumers being asked to pay for their panels, or for their connection to the grid?

Either way you have to buy the panels. What am I missing here?

The situation is you will need to pay a premium to the utility company once you are feeding electricity into the grid. The mandatory digital meter will register both usage and production flow separately.

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