Yea this is so gonna work with them paying 50-60k/pa for engineers. Seriously DACH mentality and influence has been devastating on serious tech development in Europe
German corporations (and politics) are full of bean counters, bureaucrats and underachievers. It's filled with people who love to talk, excessively plan, draw flowcharts and build frameworks - essentially everything except getting shit done.
While I agree, that DACH mentality in big German corporations "has been devastating on serious tech development" at these companies, I don't see how this would affect the whole of Europe. It's an opportunity for other countries/companies to do better.
It's already working.
In a nutshell: German speakers mentality
If you happen to want your supplier to be slow, extremely reliable, and you don't mind paying for the high profit margin they expect to be able to extract, you'll be a perfect customer of a DACH-mentality company. There are hundreds of niche categories where they dominate the market, including machine tools, forging, factory automation, etc.
But don't write off DACH: there are plenty of companies in DACH that run circles around their competitors by blending typically DACH traits with agility.
At least DACH made the progress of opening up. It would be ideal to combine DACH liberalism for language and french attitude towards tech and innovation.
But.. ..why would you want to speak anything else? Who settles for the mediocre?
For future career possibilities worth investigating, would you care to name a few good examples/companies you are aware of?
In a stable manufacturing business, it’s a superpower. In tech, not so much.
Most EU tech and non-tech companies, with some notable exceptions like Spotify, have this mentality.
And then all of a sudden due to lack of workers and other factors even DACH began to change and basically accepted English as the defacto working language in tech.
Unfortunately it's a small change, too little too late as they say. Without proper transeuropean companies and unified market we will never be able to challenge competitors from Asia let alone the USA.
Though companies like the Schwarz Gruppe or OEDIV tend to understand their value so I don't think parent's comment is valid.
Is that, like, actual information, or just an educated guess based on some industry average.
at least for jobs which often are referred to as engineers (through legally speaking are not as enginer is a protected title having little to do with software development)
maybe for jobs of people which mainly idk. replace hardware in servers all day but don't really administrate the servers at all
but DACH mentality? Perhaps hard-working like people in Germany, Austria and Switzerland? Or overengineering or being stubborn and old-fashioned?
Exactly this
Sure if you are one of the best of the best and are willing to take high risk for high reward and in general give up QoL/Work live Balance then especially in SV you have better chances to make a lot of money.
But for most skilled engineers they can get their money worth in the EU, through depending on their priorities and goals in live.
Like to put it in context to have a similar quality of live in US I think I would need to earn around 50% more before tax and that is even through US has much less tax. Through that 50% more also would allow me more flexibility for reducing my QoL at the current time, invest it and long time have more money (or much less if you mess up). So again a question of priorities.
Are there any other countries where tech engineers are among the best paid workers?
Unlike in Armenia or Georgia, the Belarusian IT industry was never a major tax contributor, but its internal spending power was enormous and it transformed the country into a much more livable place.
Since August 9, 2020 this all collapsed. Out of slighly less than 9mln population, 300,000 left the country out of fear of prosecution. Many of them -- from that same IT industry that once defined the bright future of the country.
I'm not sure this model ever applied to A & CH, and might be starting to collapse in D as well.
For example even when a larger company gets acquired (or a merger happens) it could take a decade to consolidate overlapping services.
Historically, too: Poland, Czechia, Hungary and Romania, but German speaking communities have disappeared or are in massive decline.
Disclaimer: this list of German speaking countries might be incomplete.
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