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https://x.com/christogrozev/status/1827450631462048023

> I wonder what caught up with him first: the undisturbed sale of hard drugs vIa telegram, or the undisturbed recruitment of freelancers for GRU's terrorist attacks across Europe.

Seems there could be some truth to the accusations.

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Cannot terrorist-freelancers (whatever that means) be recruited with Element, Signal, VK or email on Yandex?

Sure, but if the people who run those services are responsive to law enforcement requests about that behavior, the law is usually satisfied.

Telegram's policy is apparently to not moderate anything, and ignore law enforcement requests.

I'm not saying Telegram is right or wrong here, just that their behavior may not be legal in places like France.

What about exchanging paper one time pads? We ought to go after the paper mill for not securing their product by this logic.

Yes but those are probably backdoored by USA so ok.

>christogrozev

Well, if this guy starts damage controlling, this is definitely a CIA operation

All I’ll say about Grozev is read his Wikipedia. A brilliant journalist. He’s in that video where Navalny calls the guy that poisoned him.

He also said some very dumb things. Like the tweet when he said that microwaves got smaller because microelectronics got smaller.

People are complex creatures.

My working theory is that by making it difficult for the average user to activate end-to-end encrypted chats, especially compared to industry standards, and by positioning the service as an 'anything goes' platform, Mr. Durov might have created the world's largest Kompromat machine.

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kompromat

Telegram and cryptocurrency has single handedly responsible for the recent drug epidemic, sex blackmail rings in South Korea.

Cant say I have good things to say about Telegram founders and operators. Its not some innocent "free speech" messenger app, its sinister

You won't believe for what are responsible paper money printed by central banks.

As for those South Korea-related stories, the blame is partially on the government. For example, an operator of a website selling illegal videos got only 18 months in that country [1].

[1] https://www.chinadailyhk.com/hk/article/135865

> You won't believe for what are responsible paper money printed by central banks.

100 times yes. So where are laws and regulations for the money?! Oh wait. They exist :)

>Telegram and cryptocurrency has single handedly responsible for the recent drug epidemic,

I thought Reagan beat that with his war on drugs? Obviously flippant comment, but wouldn't it be more appropriate to say "Te....chnology has single handedly responsible for the recent drug epidemic,", to which I would answer 'No, it's always been about dollar bills, and what 'recent' drug epidemic?" The US opioid crisis wasn't fuelled by telegram.

> I thought Reagan beat that with his war on drugs?

Reagan in South Korea? Are you reading only half of the words in each sentence?

Still a bs argument. 1890s, terrorists takes a mule to the assassination. 1920s, terrorist drives a car to the assassination, and now we deem henry ford liable because of it.

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