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Comment by kelnos | Hacker News Reader

This is absolutely disgusting. Despite Mozilla's general decline, I always want to believe they're going to do the right thing by their users. But this is really hard to swallow.

Advertising is unethical psychological manipulation, full stop. I don't care if the delivery or targeting mechanism is supposedly "privacy-preserving" (yeah, right). Ads themselves, even completely untargeted ads, need to go.

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Then I think it's only fair for you to completely stop using ad-supported sites and services, right away.

(Which will also mean that Firefox's treatment of ads will not affect you.)

What do you mean you don't want to sleep with me? It's a date! I paid for dinner!

- advertisers

"It's not stealing, I'm just freely accessing your paid content"

- users

"Officer, arrest this man! He had the gall to show up at my site and only consume some of the content I tried to shove into his face!"

They can always refuse to serve me anything. That's equally fair.

It's actually: you say you want to live in a world where there are no ads, and therefore no ad-supported content. Well, with a little self-restraint you can live in that world right now. What, you don't like that world after all?

I just did a quick search of your comments on HN and I see that you're regularly sharing/using links to archive.is in an effort to bypass paywalls.

So, given that you're unwilling to pay and that you believe advertising is unethical, how do you expect people to fund the content you consume?

Don't you think it's unethical to expect they do it for free?

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=author%3Akelnos%20archive&type...

Not the person you are replying to, but it's not up to me to determine what the best business model is for a company. My "job" with respect to info providers here is to consume what I like on an open protocol. If I find a website that interests me enough, by itself, to subscribe to it then maybe I would. But none of them have, not even any of the big ones. If someone provided a system where I could tip a website for an article or other piece of media I like, I'd do that. But nobody seems to know how to make micro-transactions work that I can see.

So if advertising is unwanted, and subscriptions to individual websites on the internet isn't working either, then maybe they should get more creative.

I had a lot of fun on old forums before this mess started, so if we revert to that so be it.

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