Very important. Transcript aren’t ideal, but still skimmable. And trivially quotable:
> The thing that's often missed about solar panels when you put them on the ground is that they are hundreds to thousands of times more energetically and economically productive than farming, which is typically how we dispose of large amounts of land in order to create energy that we can use.
https://www.complexsystemspodcast.com/episodes/solar-economi...
It just feels a bit silly to imply that the point of farming is to produce energy, in a general sense.
And historically, it is true that agriculture was the source of most wealth, including both food and energy. Consider growing hay -> feeding pack animals -> transportation. Also, using firewood to generate heat, large amounts of which were needed to for expensive processes like iron smelting. (Not to mention human labor.)
Nowadays it's the other way around, agriculture requires energy inputs for things like fertilizer.