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I'm wondering if the author ever tried one of the many neovim distributions, which solve a lot of the problem they're describing. All of the plugins and integrations necessary are already set up to create a nice fully featured IDE-style environment. E.g. LazyVim, AstroVim or NvChad

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After years of using Vim as a keyboard assassin, then Neovim (with a custom config initially based on kickstart.nvim), about a month ago I started using LazyVim. After test-driving the default config for just a few hours, I found myself nodding my head and saying to myself, "Yes, this is the way."

I had seen some of the other "Neovim as IDE" projects but after looking at them carefully, I decided that LazyVim is generally the most polished one out there. Folke deserves a lot of credit.

The breakthrough for me was realising that it's a totally acceptable tradeoff to let other developers who know what they're doing, keep up with the bleeding edge plugin scene, and have generally good opinions make decisions about configuration so I can get real work done and not spend time getting bogged down in ricing and config files.

Agreed. I use to switch on and off between vim, neovim and VS Code vim-keybindings until I found AstroVim. When I use AstroVim, I can modify what little I need to knowing the base and foundation is taken care of and I can focus on what matters.

I tries LazyVim, but on every startup it nags me about version updates, and :x somehow takes 2-3 seconds extra as well. I don't live in the editor; vim is only useful to me if it starts up and quits instantly.

It sounds like you don't have lazy loading enabled. No way it should take that long to start up, and version updates shouldn't be that frequent.

I don't know how to enable it. It isn't mentioned on the config screen, though not very much is.

How much ricing have you done of the default config? Lazy loading of plugins is enabled by default— you shouldn't have to do anything. LazyVim handles lazy loading automatically; you don't need to manually configure anything. It should look like this:

    -- lazy.nvim configuration example
    require('lazy').setup({
      defaults = {
        lazy = true, -- default to lazy loading
        -- other default options
      },
      plugins = {
        { 'neovim/nvim-lspconfig' },
        { 'hrsh7th/nvim-cmp' },
        -- ... other plugins
      }
    })

You can disable the update checker with a very simple config change.[0]

As for :x being slow, I'm not sure what that might be, it certainly isn't the case for me, it quits instantly. Try asking around in their support channels?

[0]: https://www.lazyvim.org/configuration/lazy.nvim (look for "checker" field)

The article specifically mentions following chris@machine, so I would assume that LunarVim was on their radar. But I agree, it seems odd that it wasn't mentioned in the article.

There is also spacevim, which is what I use for remotes when remoting with Zed breaks(which is still quite often at the moment).

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