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I’d argue that it’s not just online dating apps that are struggling. I think as a culture we’re struggling. Dating apps are just an indicator of that.

I’m currently on a self-improvement journey where I’m literally now injecting “research chemicals” shipped in from China just because it’s the only way I’m gonna get good looking enough to compete in this ridiculous market. As much as I’ve improved myself over the years I’ve been alive, the standards have gone even higher. That said, I’m not sure if the improved version I’ve made of myself would’ve done well ten years ago either. Maybe I was always doomed to die alone.

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Just don't even try to date in the United States. If you believe you are a great guy with a lot to offer, go where people actually value you. Try dating internationally. The same profile that gets me one like per month in my major metro area in the US, gets me 20 likes per day in major metro areas outside of the US. I met my wife this way. When we were dating, it was shocking to see the amount of foreign men (like me) with local women. Nearly every time we go out, we would meet another couple.

What type of chemicals would these be?

I can only think of cosmetics (makeup), skin care (acne, moisturizer), botox, and steroids/PEDs/HGH/etc that could improve physical disadvantages that cant be improved otherwise. But not an area I'm too experienced in. What type of chemicals are you talking about?

You’re on the money so far. I’d add peptides as a separate category in there. They’re not as well known. Steroids/PEDs already covers things like SARMs and some other stuff people will inject to get advantages.

It’s insane that I have to go to these lengths though to even be considered in this dating market. I’m still waiting to see evidence of effects in my own body for a couple of these but if they pan out for improved recovery (e.g. bpc-157) then I’ll be doing more cosmetic surgery. My biggest complaint with cosmetic surgery is that it’s just so painful for the recovery, recovery takes forever, and it’s why I don’t do more of it. Cause I have very obvious facial flaws that could be improved by a skilled and knowledgeable surgeon who focuses on improving beauty.

Really? I am sorry, but this sounds completely off-base to me. The idea you're holding onto about how the world works is counter-productive and after you spend all that money and put yourself at risk you might find yourself in the same position anyway. Perhaps consider therapy instead?

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