It would be better if the HN submission link was updated, as it has way more engagement than on X.
— But that’s where the information is.
— Stop linking to Twitter/X, here’s a Fediverse link with more information.
— But it has fewer engagement.
— Stop linking to Twitter/X, here’s a Fediverse link with more information and more engagement.
— …
— OK, at some point, you need to recognize that you are the problem.
Why does posting there make a user a “problem”?
Who’s the judge of what’s a “problem” and what are the criteria, I wonder.
As someone without a Twitter/X account, their links are bad. I can only see the first post of a chain, can't see replies, etc. Mastodon is better in that regard.
This has nothing to do with the content of the platform, Musk, etc, btw. It's just the fact that now it's a bit hostile for logged out users/people without accounts. It used to be fine, but now it hides content, which is bad for me.
It only motivates me to avoid the platform.
It was always awful, in my opinion. Twitter does a good job at letting people publish "sound bytes"; little bits of what's on their mind. Past that (into longer form and discussion) it has never been good.
Why is posting there make the user a problem? Because, if the user is trying to communicate something, they are choosing a platform that isn't interested in making it effective at communication. A closed off community isn't the town square it claims to be. If you are communication on that site, you can be sure people directed aren't getting the full story.
Who's the judge? Me. I am the judge of what a problem is. So is the parent poster you were replying to. They are also a judge. It's odd that you hand off opinions to others and don't make your own.
Clicking on almost any of the UI elements leads to a log in prompt, without showing anything else. For people without accounts (or those who don't want to make one), that's probably not functionally different from dropping a link to some forum that requires registration, albeit in this case I guess at least the main post is visible.
The Mastodon link in comparison has the discussion visible up front, which is nice to see! Now whether the fediverse is popular enough to actually have good discussions, that's a bit harder to say, but at least it's something!
I think Facebook also had similar issues, where it gates a lot of things behind a login prompt, quite user hostile, though also understandable why they'd do it that way.
I don’t have an Instagram account and don’t see a reason to create one, but my friends can still link me pictures or videos that I can look at. If I want to engage in any way or read past the couple top comments, I need to create an account.
Showing the user what they came for is a good way to get free advertisement, but requiring them to create an account to actually use the platform is perfectly reasonable.
I don't know who was the first moron who decided to post the first "long form writeup" on a platform that only supports blurbs... but I am absolutely amazed that people thought it was a good idea and followed suit.
2. Because you are basically linking to a deep link in the dark web.
3. We all get to make our own decisions, and the person calling out shitty websites that you should not bring to the group has my support.
If someone was telling me to look up information from a print edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica from the 1970s, I'd have the same problem: it is an absurd thing to ask of me because there are better, more frictionless ways to obtain the information.
For better or for worse at least you can view this single tweet now, but right after Musk took over he blocked all access without account which was just annoying.
Imagine if HN would require you to have account browse and read it. That's what's mostly happened to twitter (and happens to the rest of our benevolent overlords/social platforms like fb and instagram, to which regular web migrated with the information :/)
In any case, at least we can see the replies and other posts from the account without having to create an account. Still better than Twitter/X in my view.
While true, I'd much rather read discussions on HN than say X or even Reddit these days.