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Not needed. It's tax payer money down the toilet.

But hey I'm a pacifist and will be told that I'm a weak man who will lead to the downfall of civilisation so oh well.

I'm a pacifist at heart, but I'm not blind to the fact that a single digit percentage of humans (in every country) are just plain evil (in lots of ways). These people can do harm without any feelings of remorse. And a double digit percentage of humanity can easily be manipulated into being / doing evil.

Our current, imperfect, civilisation exists because we largely succeed in keeping the whims of these minorities under control. It's a depressing thought, but if I don't accept it, I'll be disappointed in humanity on a daily basis.

Well, ya know - it could be. Not needed until they are... risk management. Most should hope that their weapons are never "needed."

We already had an order in for convential working subs from the French .. now we're on the hook for more money and less of a guarantee they'll ever arrive.

They’re still redundant though

If we’re heading to regional war, US nuclear subs will be here regardless

Even Darwin is a massive permanent US base

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