A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar (2021)
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Some comments dismiss this author as a new driver with a learning curve but Tesla has impacted muscle memory several times now. Why did they change this row of icons anyway? I don’t think they take the responsibility seriously.
Brought to you by the folks who took out a critical piece of the break and shipped it by accident
Also, I haven't been an Elon fan since 2018 or so, but I was still able to look past his shenanigans when I bought this a few years ago, but he's gone straight over the cliff since then and keep falling, so this is almost definitely the last one I'm getting.
[1] https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tesla-has-the-most-loyal-b...
It's not an idle worry either, many people have talked about the dangerous episodes they've had driving when basic controls were suddenly hidden from them. I've personally experienced it as well, riding with a relative in their Tesla. It started raining on the freeway, the auto wipers weren't turning on, and neither of us could quickly find the manual controls while hurtling down the freeway because they had moved since the car owner had last used them.
Which is a faulty way to think about it to begin with because good UX patterns should aim to be as idiot-proof as possible, especially for a CAR of all things. The KISS principle should apply here.
I've had my '23 Model Y for almost a year now and I still find the UX very severely lacking. For example if you want to change the speedometer display from kmh to mph - for crossing the Canada/US border - it's located in a weird part of the "Display" menu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbqibzYjkxE
Why? Seriously, why?
As a driver I really want tactile feedback on my controls - even clear buttons on a screen require a half-second glance off the road which in bad weather is not a good idea. Needless to say, all forms of self-drive features give up in inclement weather.
I think this is a problem at the product-management level, where they cannot decide which user persona they want to prioritize. Could also be financially related, and other users complain when the company picks a side.
If I could take the lower half of a Tesla Model Y with a totally average Toyota upper half at the Model Y pricing I would buy that car in a heartbeat. Just swapping the infotainment unit to customizable Android Auto with CarPlay and I would consider it. It’s such a shame to have good engineering bundled together with bad opinions.
One particularly vexing thing: the splitting of vehicle settings between the instrument cluster and center stack displays. At least Tesla puts it all on one screen. Audi, for example, has it spread across three screens.
I will call it what it is - techbro delusion. Silicon Valley deluded itself into thinking that it alone knows best and that more tech alone is the solution to all our problems.
Tesla's design choices are the perfect example of this culture permeating into a high-stakes world where real people can die.
I've used CarPlay and Android Auto in previous vehicles, the Tesla iPad experience is _vastly_ superior. Mapping, defaults, interactions, nothing is better in the phone apps.
LOL. No. Just no. And I'm on my third (and likely the last) Tesla.
Tesla's navigation is just crap. It doesn't work offline, its routing decisions are sometimes are incorrect, it's difficult to use, etc.
It doesn't. It can't show the map tiles, and its offline address entry can't always resolve the address.
> The voice instructions are clear, the large screen and context-sensitive portion in the binnacle are great.
Yes, Mr Musk. They sure are. I didn't even _had_ to use voice commands with any of my previous cars. Because why would I? It's just easier to use the controls.
So many useless features and all the core stuff is harder to use.
I was so frustrated with my w213 E class Mercedes, I went back to a used fiat Punto.
Everything is much easier and better, it's less comfortable and my SO has hard time sleeping in it on long trips, but aside that it's much better.
Gets a scratch? Who cares. Someone bumps my car while parking? Who cares. Fuel economy? Much better. Maintenance cost? Much lower. Insurance? Much lower.
Everything is analog and easy to use.
I am more and more convinced that I will only be using vintage cars in the future, and all this digital stuff can die on the spot, and Tesla crap more than anything else.
https://x.com/CarManToday/status/1822163384340521085?t=1aqVH...
But eventually maybe my 2009 Renault Laguna could also be converted :P
Between the cost of of batteries, power trains, etc it's just cheaper to buy a brand new car imho.
My buddy told me that that's the emergency release, and to not use that, because it can damage the car if used too many times, and had to show me the real door handle. (I have already forgotten where it is.)
It's probably good that in an emergency, my hand would naturally reach for the thing that would release me from the car - but on the other hand, it's wild that the natural muscle memory of decades leads me to a thing that'll fuck up his car.
I'd buy another EV. I wouldn't buy another Tesla, because of the UX. Lack of physical buttons and changing UI. The infotainment screen crashed a couple of times in a year, the car was fine but suddenly the only place for car status feedback was gone. Lastly, not having a console in front of you, and needing to look to the side to see things like speed limit just felt unacceptable.
In ux technically still works is a very low bar.
Like when they get new third party firmware that takes 36 hours to run the test suite, so they just flash a car with it, and "take it out for a quick spin", much to the third parties consternation.
> The manual for WordStar, the most popular word-processing program, is 400 pages thick. To write a novel, you have to read a novel – one that reads like a mystery to most people. They’re not going to learn slash q-z any more than they’re going to learn Morse code. That is what Macintosh is all about.
(It didn’t last; since MacOS X or possibly before macOS has supported a decent set of emacs-y keystrokes as part of the UI)
I drive a Tesla Model 3 daily and agree to the critism about it's interface. On my last holidays I rented a Suzuki Vitara. Indeed it's much easier to find and operate the standard controls like for climate. Also cruise control with its 6 buttons took only a little learning.
The worst turned out to be CarPlay, a feature I always thought I'm missing with my Tesla. Occasionally it just didn't work, even though the phone was connected. So you get no navigation or you stop/start/wait until it works. And repeat that after every car stop situation. And when it works, forget about zooming or seeing anything more than the next step on this tiny display.
All in all I was happy to return to my Tesla again. But then I know all important controls from memory.
Anyway: Analog cars ruled indeed. I'd just use a simple phone holder too rather than anything like CarPlay.
So it's basically not CarPlay itself, but its implementation?
edit: I'm not saying it's flawless, but the alternatives are even worse. On balance, I like it.
Ok, but those are huge issues. You can't just wave those away. It's like that old joke about "other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?".
In fact if you take a look at the UI in general, it's all pretty disconnected. We have 50% of the screen taken up with a visualization of the cars around you (but not all of them, and you can't 'trust' it). Next to it we have a map. The map directions are not shown on the visualization. You can't use the visualization to check for cars as you would in mirrors, as its not accurate. So why is it even shown? They could use it to show navigation routes rendered as they are seen, so offramps are shown to the user in 3d rather than the overhead map tiles. That would be actually useful.
Profits on low margin models can be as low as a couple hundred dollars. Obviously some are more like 10-20 percent over build costs, but in general the margins are low and an extra 20-30 dollars of manufacturing cost really matters if they can’t pass that along to the buyer.
Not that that makes an excuse for making an unsafe and crappy product, but it helps to explain the situation.
As for myself, I would vastly prefer a car with a small non-touch enabled MFD and a regular analog dash with knobs and switches over any kind of touchscreen. Problem is that is a lot more expensive than a tablet that runs everything.
Touchscreens as a primary interface is the mark of cheap, low quality, serf grade engineering in the modern age.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/hyundai-promises-to-keep-butto...
I’ve starting seeing newer teslas indicate the complete opposite direction than they are turning many times in recent history. They no longer have an indicator stalk (as of 2024 model 3) but instead two small buttons on the wheel close enough that I’m not surprised this happens. I don’t think they should be allowed on the road as-is. I’m surprised they pass safety standards. No indicator stalk is definitely a bridge too far.
The auto wipers not working is another. It’d be ok if there was a wiper stalk. There isn’t.
In much of the world you can buy better electric cars for less. Electric cars which don’t have an overly minimalist interface. The USA has high tariffs so Tesla will survive here but they are giving away their international market share with their designs.
Talk about solutions for problems that shouldn't even exist in the first place!
The common case is the driver being the owner. Tesla has real world data about how many times the defrost button is tapped. Their UX decision to make the bottom bar customizable is smart.
I personally choose to only put the defrost button in the bar during months of the year when I use that button frequently and remove it at other times. Keeps it easily accessible when I need it and out of the way when I don't. Elegant, functional.
It might even be the case that defrost is in the bottom bar by default and the owner of the Tesla he drove had removed it, I can't remember right now what Tesla does for newly shipped cars.
5 minutes and they don’t know where all the buttons are? Colour me shocked. Any new car needs human recalibration of muscle memory.
I want more buttons too but any new car has you scrambling in rain, fog for buttons. Even your muscle memory for looking at the speedometer is all askew.
I do think that the HVAC system could use permanent buttons, or at least persistent screen buttons.
Edit: My favourite bit about being irrationally downvoted is when someone comments about how I should “read the article more carefully” when they themselves have not read the article or my comment carefully.
Um, this is exactly what the article is about: Tesla used to do this. There used to be a persistent "defog" button right at the bottom, but now it's hidden behind the Temperature indicator, which looks like it only lets you adjust up/down.
The article is about being unfamiliar with a car after 5 minutes. If the button was a physical button you’d still have to look for it since you are still unfamiliar with the car.
Before downvoting, ask yourself:
* “Would this article exist if the person found the button within 5 minutes?”
* “Would this article exist if the person was familiar with the car?”
> This is one reason why hard-buttons are so effective in old-school cars. They all use these same standard icons so it’s easier for new users to scan across them and find the one you want without any training.
Imagine a physical button for the demister that's hidden behind a temperature display LCD that hinges down.
There's no indication that the temperature display moves or reveals anything, no affordances, other than on a statement on page 3-11-A of the vehicle manual. Would it be acceptable to be confused in that instance even after many five-minute periods?
Their initial reaction was on not being able to find the button after five minutes of driving it, which is what my comment is about.
(Some cars don’t gave have a defogger, in which case one will obvious never find the button. This is unlikely in a current or remotely recent production car…)
All of them except Tesla.
If you frequently need to demist, simple drag the demist option onto the app bar, then it's a single click.
The notion that every function needs to be accessible with a single click is what leads to ridiculously busy cabins that look like aircraft flight decks.
Complaints about Tesla changing its UI ("real pain of being at the mercy of the manufacturer who can completely change how your car works overnight") are also ridiculous. Owning a Tesla is a rewarding experience precisely because its OTA updates work consistently well, and its UI is well-thought-out and responsive. If Tesla wasn't allowed to change its UI, we'd never have great features like the customisable app bar. And in any case, in the years I've owned my Model S, there has only been one major redesign of the UI, and it greatly simplified and improved the whole experience.
If I’m driving a rented or borrowed car, it gets dark and cold outside, oncoming traffic has bright lights, and the windshield is fogging up, I need to turn on the anti-fog mode. I do not want to have to contemplate whether it’s in a menu and whether whoever drove the car last remembered to put it on the app bar.
The reason? So the UX can be improved over time. Like, for example, when Tesla made certain safety symbols and the speed readout larger.
Try doing that when everything is in hardware.
[0] The speed readout you’re mentioning is not a control. I have no problem with it being on a screen other than the fact that that screen occasionally crashes.