If the SE 4 has an OLED screen then it might be derived from the iPhone X, since that was the first OLED iPhone. That would be a size increase from the SE 3.
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Apple-iPhone-SE,Apple...
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Apple-iPhone-SE,Apple...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/jelly-max-th...
Wait, no... SE 3 is 4.7 inches big, that's too big. Original SE has 4 inch screen. That's what we are taking about here.
Becuase it is an entry level model in developing countries.
Think of it like what a Tesla Model 3 is for EVs - it's in this weird middle ground between "luxury" and "functional".
The Android equivalent is a Samsung A15 or Huawei Nova, and in developing markets your smartphone is your primary computing device so brand prestige does matter.
I am a fan of the iPhone SE btw - I find it to be a good mix of functional and sleek, but the screen is too small to read books so I use a Pro Max.
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I can't reply, so
That's why I said
> this weird middle ground between "luxury" and "functional"
It's a mid tier model, but has a strong brand connotation outside the HN and Automotive Bubble as "Bougie".
Sure it's not a Porsche, but it's not a Corolla or a Hyundai.
The mass market has spoken on the preference for large phones, massively outselling the small ones. It's not some conspiracy from Apple to kill small phones, they gave consumers small phones, but you weren't buying enough of them to show "line goes up" in the board room, so here we are.
MKBHD did a video on how weak consumer demand killed the small phone market.
That's kinda the defining feature of a small phone. In contrast, my 15 pro max can last over a week because it has a gigantic battery.
FWIW there are other manufacturers out there and some of them make small phones. Hardly anyone buys them
I searched on GSMArena for phones that are not larger than the Pixel 4A introduced in 2022 or later. There's exactly one: the iPhone SE. Note people calling for small phones will usually say the Pixel 4A doesn't really count as a small phone.
https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2022&nHeightM...
That's an average of 2 small phones per year which is about what I'd expect.
I think there's probably room in the market for one company to make a decent midrange small phone. I don't think there's room for two because of exactly what you say: I'm in that market segment and I'm in no particular hurry to replace my Pixel 4A, at least as long as LineageOS supports it.
I guess there are 5/4=1.25 small phones per year. Fewer than I expected!
The numbers for the past four years don't tell the whole story. Apple and Google are the only companies that introduced smaller phones that anybody would actually want. Google hasn't made one since 2020. Apple, since 2021. There's no indication the next iPhone SE will be as small as previous models.
Why is that a bad thing? When you see how unreliable SD cards are you wouldn't want apps installed on them either. SD cards are good only as a temporary storage medium, similarly to how you use a USB thumb drive, to carry data for point A to point B, that's it. You don't want them for long term storage of Important data like you use SSDs or HDDs. It's not just about the medium speed, it's about reliability.
Yes, I know, premium SD cards with industrial reliability exists, but let's be real, no Average Joe ever buys them and instead just buy the cheap counterfit value SD cards that are on sale at Amazon or AliExpress or in best case at Walmart.
I'll make that argument now though. I don't want an operating system telling me I can't do things because it might not be a good idea. Show a warning when something might not go well, but my risk tolerance regarding instability and data loss are mine to decide, not Google's and not some app developer's.
Then maybe iOS and Android phones are not for you. Maybe Linux phones fit you best.
> That's kinda the defining feature of a small phone.
The two do not necessarily follow. If you made a phone that was small(er) in width and height, but slightly (1-2mm) bigger in depth, you could have a larger battery that was perhaps not "a dog".
No.We are not a minority. There are plenty of people who would appreciate a 4 inch smartphone.
Here, Uniherz just released a kickstarted for 4.3 inch smartphone.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/jelly-max-th...
At the moment I'm looking at it ~$378,000 raised from the goal of ~$100,000.
Edit: no body is talking about business terms, that means people want I small phone.
Such claims don't mean anything in business terms.
There are plenty of people who would appreciate an iphone that slaps your butt everytime it rings, why isn't Apple making one for them?
compared to years back when everyone was at least saying they were going to buy the new phone when it releases
go even further back tho it was i think im going to switch to iphone/samsung
go all the way back and be me: sup guys anyone have a ringtone? bluetooth me i just got this new samsung with 400 texts and free weekends. wanna see how fast i can text with T1
I’m not a market research expert, but I think Apple has largely missed the mark by positioning its smaller phones as budget options. There’s demand for a premium small phone. Maybe even make it a wee bit thicker to improve battery life, but it should be narrow and not too tall.