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"Premium" in general means "more expensive," right?

It's $100, compared to $50 for the last 4K Chromecast dongle or $30 for the 1080p version.

For reference, an Apple TV 4K costs $129.

That premium gets you a pretty beefy processor at least, the same one found on the iPhone 13. I doubt the SoC Google is using will be even close to that.

Supposedly Google's new thing uses a Mediatek MT8696 from 2021. If https://fr.gadgetversus.com/processeur/mediatek-mt8696-vs-me... is to believed, that would be 20 GFLOPs – Apple's does over 1000...

And that can run games on par with last-gen consoles (below PS4, but significantly above Switch level in terms of raw GFLOPs)!

At their original price point, Chromecasts were pretty great, but why on earth would I pay the same as an Apple TV for something containing an SoC from 2021? I wasn't able to find reliable numbers, but performance seems to be lower by 1-2 orders of magnitude.

Does the Apple TV work well without an iPhone? I worry it'll be missing half the features. With the Chromecast I can use my phone as a remote, whether that's iOS or Android, for example.

The Apple TV comes with a great remote, and an iPhone not only isn't necessary, the backup "if you lost your remote" interface on the iPhone is kind of bad.

Though if you lose your remote in the cushions or whatever note that your iPhone can be used as a "hotter hotter colder colder" method to find the remote. Was surprised to find this feature. https://support.apple.com/en-ca/108371

Oh yes, Apple has been adding UWB location to all their devices, it's great. Thanks for the info, I'll get an Apple TV next!

The only feature I can think of that you would miss is using the phone to type passwords on the Apple TV (instead of using the keyboard-less remote). Set that up once, and you should otherwise not know the difference. Otherwise, my iPhone needs no interaction with the ATV.

Especially when everyone’s tv now does all this pretty much? I cannot imagine successfully getting my gf to switch to this from the Roku integrated in her tv.

> And that can run games on par with last-gen consoles (below PS4, but significantly above Switch level in terms of raw GFLOPs)!

It also supports a wide variety of wireless gaming controllers (including PS and xbox ones). The games aren't as good as a Switch or PS4, though.

It's precisely $50 premiumer than chromecast.

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