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How big is their network so far?

They have 2 or 3 tunnels of which at most 2 are actively in use.

I haven't looked into it recently, however their Las Vegas network is going and expanding; 40 million people per year travel to Vegas, a great testbed and for exposure.

Why is the number of people in LA relevant when the ridership peak is 1,355 an hour.

... Wait, is it actually _that_ low? That's, like, a high-frequency conventional bus route (ie not BRT). Like, what on earth was the point? Either use buses for same capacity, or build a real rail line for ten times the capacity. The highest capacity metro systems can do something like 40k/hour each direction (though one of those would clearly be overkill in this case, and something far more modest could be used).

I wouldn't bring up the Las Vegas network if you're trying to advocate for the boring company, it's quite possibly the worst system of transportation that's ever been created. A farce in every aspect, benefiting no one.

I used the underground Tesla thing to get between the halls of the convention center during NAB - it was pretty reasonable, but not really scalable...

This is not the sort of thing you should measure on an individual user experience basis. Try running the numbers for the system, it would essentially get beaten by a medium-sized bus in capacity and times, at a fraction of the cost.

Not to mention the large delta between what was promised versus what was delivered. There's probably a good case for fraud, if it were not for the fact that the purchasers want to save face they could probably sue.

... that is what I said. Good experience, not scalable.

However, transit advocates need to realize that the experience of individual users _does_ matter.

Is that the one that’s just teslas driving in a pretty normal tunnel at fairly unimpressive speeds & throughput?

Teslas which still don't have reliable enough FSD to drive on a one-way only track so they need human drivers to drive 1-3 people at a time.

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