This is such an infuriatingly dismissive and abrasive answer, even with not being part of that community. All metal is just trivial guitar play and angry shouts right? Paintings are just the correct application of colors and other materials.

- edit - And yes, I have talked to artists about absolutely trivial paintings. During that I learned how.. nontrivial putting poop on canvas may be - /edit -

Sometimes it's better to accept you're not part of a conversation and to either shut up, or ask a very confused "But why?"