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The very next dot point is agreeing with you: "The ideal quantity to use these tools is tiny, much more miniscule than any of us is trained to think".

And I agree tbh. The TS community has turned me off static typing for life. It's just wall to wall bikeshedding from the least productive people I've ever had the displeasure of working with.

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Honestly, that explains perfectly why all MS apps have gone from useable if a bit slow or buggy to just unusable buggy messes that crash constantly and make my machine feel like its running on molasses.

It doesn't "explain" it at all (and indeed many of reject the idea that MS apps - in general - are worse. They've had a bad reputation for decades, and that isn't based on nothing).

Teams + the entire Office suite are two examples of Microsoft products going downhill over time.

That's true but that has absolutely nothing to do with types in programming languages; it has more to do with MS's culture of always favouring backward compatibility and never culling any features in every version.

> it has more to do with MS's culture of always favouring backward compatibility and never culling any features in every version.

The new Office suite are unbelievably buggy and slow not because of backward compatibility, but because of numerous useless "features" Microsoft added which made the software essentially bloatware. By the time Excel opens up on my Mac, I can open several Google Sheets and start working.

Has Teams ever been good? From the first time I used it it has always been one of the worst pieces of software I use.

Office seems fine to me - not great software, but I haven't noticed any particular decline (not a heavy user, but have been using it since Word v2 in the 1990s)

And in any case what does this have to do with Typescript and the (over?) use of types?

The actual quality of their apps has significantly degraded over time. Many of their apps which use web-native technologies have become nearly unusable, and I strongly suspect it's exactly because they've gone down this insane road of bike shedding and constant re-inventing of the wheel instead of pursuing excellence.

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