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Did you try very hard? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXAp8My7Js

So there is a clip of someone dropping multiple ballots in a drop box. Apparently [1] that is not necessarily fraudulent, you can drop multiple ballots from family members.

There were international observers in the 2020 election and they found no evidence of fraud [2], and many mainstream media sources that I hold reliable, (e.g. [3]) fact-check multiple claims of election fraud and nothing has showed up that would suggest that the election was "stolen".

I don't think it is at all preposterous to assume that the 2020 US election was fair, unless you subscribe to a view that the global mainstream media apparatus is in on some grand conspiracy.

[1] https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-election-ohio-ballots-...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidentia...

[3] https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55016029

Different people could look at the same clip and assign different probabilities to P(ballot stuffer) vs P(Family ballot courier). It would depend on your Bayesians priors. If a person from a high trust society like Sweden or Finland were to see this video, they might have a prior expectation of someone being helpful. Whereas there are much lower trust societies in the world where that would not be the case.

We've gone from "haven't seen evidence" to "seen evidence at probability P-prime". Trust in an electoral system is an important enough issue that this should be investigated to the same thorough degree as a capital crime.

You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. Delivering absentee ballots on behalf of other people is not ballot box stuffing. Taking a clip of something completely mundane and attributing imagined facts and motives to it is not evidence of a stolen election. There is still an audit trail for all of those ballots from registration, to requesting the absentee ballot, to printing, and to shipping. Where are the people claiming they lost their absentee ballots and getting flagged as double-voting because someone took their ballot? This is according to all available data a made-up problem by people who are clearly worried that the "wrong" demographic is going to vote against their candidates of choice.

I've only watched the first minute (due to the presentation style), if there is better evidence later please link to it directly - but the supposed evidence does not show anybody "shoving 100+ ballots into absentee boxes". It seems to be maybe 10, at most 15 ballots, which is an absolutely realistic number for somebody dropping off ballots for their whole family.

Did you mean to send a different video? Or are you deliberately misrepresenting evidence to support your position?

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