Myspace celebrates its 21st birthday. Do we still need it?
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On one hand, we see some signs of that. For example, Facebook is no longer "cool" with younger folks. On the other hand, Meta has so much $$$ that they can try to reinvent themselves or acquire "cool" platforms, thus ensuring corporate continuity even if Facebook fizzles out - they have Instagram, WhatsApp, etc.
I’m pretty sure yahoo is still profitable.
Moving the goal posts within topic, are they relevant though? I see Yahoo!Sports pop up in my news feed from time to time, but that's about it.
> 2018. And even that I wouldn't call hostile. Just annoying. And it can be worked around.
How please?
Twitter is not just a tool with bad defaults, but one that actively disrespects user preferences. "Openly hostile" seems like a fair assessment.
But they still have more users than some other place.
There are niche subreddits that are very good and responsive without all the drama
aol and yahoo, maybe. aol was much earlier, but they both hit max valuation at around the same 2000-01 period.
myspace hit max valuation at 05-06. 5 years might as well have been a century at that point in history with the amount of flux in that industry.
my first wave was the tail end of BBSs and the beginning of the walled gardens of compuserve and aol. a bit later came The Palace, The Well, and various other (incredibly formative and impactful) social cliques.
The social aspects was what separated the 'waves' for me, and the gradual shift from an idealist concept to something more corporate.
I also remember Compuserve in the same mental slot as AOL and Prodigy, but it considerably predated them.
The first were search engines like Alta Vista, Ask Jeeves, free webhosts like Tripod and Angelfire (RIP GeoCities), and all those Usenet boards.
Now git off mah lawn ya greenhorns. :V
In the rush to move to whatever the next big social media was, I’d never thought about backing up my stuff because why would it ever be gone and why would I care? Lesson learned.
I was weirdly bummed out about it. Back when the site first launched I spent loads of time learning HTML just to customize my page before I realized site profile generators existed.
Could there be a similar case for bringing back a low-fi social media not ruined by algorithms, either MySpace or something like it? I guess the network effects, i.e. the requirement of your friends being on there, make it more challenging for social media. But I think there's a possibility of some sort of community who want to be MySpace-Amish. Personally, I think the peak of my happiness with technology was around 2007 - 2010, but obviously age and personal nostalgia have an effect there.
Everybody that keeps reinventing Facebook/Twitter (Post.news, BeReal, BlueSky, etc) does so with dollar signs in their eyes. There are FOSS options for messageboards and IM services but people gravitate to the least-friction options, which lead to spam and flame wars because there's no cost to do so.
Last I checked, it was some kind of low-budget social Spotify alternative, with most functions disabled, acting more like an archive than anything.
> Myspace, the once mighty social network, has lost every single piece of content uploaded to its site before 2016, including millions of songs, photos and videos with no other home on the internet. [0]
[0]: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/18/myspace-l...
It was originally on a HP SureStore 256, then a HP SureStore 512 that I managed. I have no idea what happened after all the hardware left our data-center. It was never meant to be a social media site but rather a mountable drive on peoples laptops part of another acquisition and somehow evolved into a social media platform. The SureStore is just a rebranded Hitachi HDS and one drive failing will not cause loss. In fact one would have to try hard to lose data on those storage arrays via bad disks. If I had to speculate, it could have been something to do with migrating a 19TB EBCDIC database, but that's just a guess.
Some prior discussion [1]
(reading your posts now -- god, I hated that Internic template; for some reason it always got my hackles up -- I put up with it when the domains were free)
At a time when record companies fought hard to keep their music off the internet MySpace talked all sorts of bands into uploading and streaming their songs on MySpace.
New social media is much less fun.
The business model of, "owned by somebody who can sell it", may be at the root.
The possibilities that existed then, exist now, if people want to make the effort to control their own lives.
Only if relaunched with ActivityPub support.
People have been saying "print is dead" for over a century.
Your comment is legacy snark.
Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."
It is based on the assumption that if the publishers were confident that the answer was yes, they would have presented it as an assertion; by presenting it as a question, they are not accountable for whether it is correct or not
good times...