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Russia will never learn as long as they get to break every international law possible, but their opponents play by the rules. They respect only force, which so far West has been unwilling to use. Obviously direct military confrontation with Russia is undesirable, but the West could employ the very same tactics they use in the EU, or those tactics they use against political opponents in their own country.

It's unfair only opponents of Putin accidentally fall out of their apartment windows.

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There's on ongoing hot war with Russia right now.

Yes, between Ukraine and Russia. I believe that any act of sabotage inside EU should be responded with similar act inside Russian territory.

The US, UK, Netherlands, France, and Latvia have boots on the ground.

There are more efficient and effective ways to undermine the Kremlin regime than risking blackops assets on torching a couple of train lines, which would be repaired within a day anyway.

To call the picture you're attempting to paint in this thread simplistic in the extreme would be generous. This is a proxy war and I suspect you know that.

I dunno about the whole tit-for-tat.

Should really just start with kicking out increasing amount of diplomats and auctioning off frozen assets to pay for the recovery post some kind of legitimate trial.

I never liked that sabotage was never considered a precursor for war but unfortunately we've been in the situation of allowing sabotage for a long time so now its considered not an act of war.

> should be responded with similar act

"Tit-for-tat"?!

After a lifetime of being subjected to the Kremlin's whims, first in Europe, and then in the USA, here are my 2 cents:

The mentality that we must adopt should be that of an animal trainer.

Every single bad behavior by the Kremlin needs to be met with a noticeable negative response. When things like this, or the bombing of the children's hospital in Kyiv, receive no specific training response... then the animal will not learn that it was bad behavior. It will continue to push the boundaries, and there will be more defecation in our living rooms.

I am sorry to put this in such blunt terms, but this is where we are today.

Hmm. America can't even do anything about 100k deaths from Chinese fentanyl. Thanks to bigcorps China and Russia are more powerful and there is anything anybody could do.

China hasn't caused any fentanyl deaths in the USA. The USA has caused them, by doing the war on drugs.

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