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> It seems increasingly apparent that we are reaching the limits of throwing more data at more GPUs;

I think you're just seeing the "make it work" stage of the combo "first make it work, then make it fast".

Time to market is critical, as you can attest by the fact you framed the situation as "on par with GPT-4o and Claude Opus". You're seeing huge investments because being the first to get a working model stands to benefit greatly. You can only assess models that exist, and for that you need to train them at a huge computational cost.

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ChatGPT is like Google now. It is the default. Even if Claude becomes as good as ChatGPT or even slightly better it won't make me switch. It has to be like a lot better. Way better.

It feels like ChatGPT won the time to market war already.

Eh, with the degradation of coding performance in ChatGPT I made the switch. Seems much better to work with on problems, and I have to do way less hand holding to get good results.

I'll switch again soon as something better is out.

But plenty people switched to Claude, esp. with Sonnet 3.5. Many of them in this very thread.

You may be right with the average person on the street, but I wonder how many have lost interest in LLM usage and cancelled their GPT plus sub.

-1: I know many people who are switching to Claude. And Google makes it near-zero friction to adopt Gemini with Gsuite. And more still are using the top-N of them.

This is similar to the early days of the search engine wars, the browser wars, and other categories where a user can easily adopt, switch between and use multiple. It's not like the cellphone OS/hardware war, PC war and database war where (most) users can only adopt one platform at a time and/or there's a heavy platform investment.

If ChatGPT fails to do a task you want, your instinct isn't "I'll run the prompt through Claude and see if it works" but "oh well, who needs LLMs?"

Please don't assume your experience applies to everyone. If ChatGPT can't do what I want, my first reaction is to ask Claude for the same thing. Often to find out that Claude performs much better. I've already cancelled ChaptGPT Plus for exactly that reason.

You just did that Internet thing where someone reads the reply someone wrote without the comment they are replying to, completely misunderstanding the conversation.

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