The new Disqus 2012: Elevating the Discussion
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I wonder if the new Disqus will stop requiring me to send them a tracking cookie in order to read the comments. (I accept the need to identify myself if and when I want to post. But it would be nice to be able to visit a web site with Disqus installed without that visit going into my permanent record next to my name.)
Disqus can also be blocked by NoScript, Ghostery and similar/equivalent addons or plugins so maybe that's the reason, not third party cookies.
I'll follow the suggestions of the other commenters and suspect the Do Not Track plugin. I guess the fact that my problems go away when I whitelist Disqus cookies is some sort of crazy side effect of my crazy toolchain.
Thanks.
What possible benefit do you get by having users login on your site as opposed to a disqus frame? Other than the "feel"?
They should get rid of that huge navigation bar. The last thing I want on my site/blog/whatever is additional, official-looking navigation buttons driving the user away from my site.
There's no reason for such a clumsy, intrusive widget. Disqus has plenty opportunity to brand the user within the registration popup already.
A tiny button with a popup-menu would serve their goals better. The current design will definitely turn off precisely the webmasters that would have been the most likely to consider a paid plan.
I took the liberty to fix it for you; http://cl.ly/1d2T3S0B0G3F3j343q2g
The user just wants to see the comments and possibly add his own.
The user doesn't want to learn why there is a "Comments"- and a "Reactions"-tab and what the difference is. The user doesn't want to be bothered with yet another meaningless star-gauge. The user doesn't care about your "community".
None of that clutter provides any value. It's just noise.
We've seen the cycle countless times. $Company damages their product in an attempt to create "social lockin", without realizing the futility of trying to compete with the established social networks. This is then inevitably followed by either a quiet rollback, or a less cluttered competitor eating their lunch.
I like disqus and sympathize with their efforts to find a business model, but they're not going to be an exception here.
Stopped reading right here. Either provide UX research to back up your claims, or stop pretending that they apply to your mythical invention of "the user."
Let's just say your downvote on the original comment didn't make a dent, so much for a quick, unrepresentative poll. What I call Common Sense is ultimately no more than the essence of past UX research and can be obtained by a mere glance at what prevails in the grand petri dish.
Cf. Altavista/Google, Myspace/Facebook, and the rise of Apple for just a few major case studies in the area of UI clutter. With regard to the siren-song of social-lockin I'll recommend to study the fate of Ping, which exemplifies what happens when even the big guys try to go against the grain.
If you find a piece of formal "UX Research" claiming anything else then I'd be curious to see it.
And I didn't downvote your original comment, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Then again, I don't understand why people are sensitive about fake internet points to begin with.
irony ... complaining about social elements in an inherently social page element: the comments section.
That statement makes no sense. So you wouldn't mind HN adding all sorts of widgets, because it was social to begin with?
Further if you read the thread again you'll notice that nowhere did I complain about social elements per se.
Since you started out so keen on science I would have expected you to effortlessly debunk my claims with hard facts or at least a coherent counter-argument. Too bad that fizzled out so quickly...
You try so hard to come across as if you had a remote clue about the UX field, yet you want to debate one of the most basic premises?
May I suggest to review the standard works (you have them on your shelf, I know you do);
http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Make-Me-Think-%20Usability/dp/032...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/156205810X/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0385267746/
Somehow you must have forgotten, well, everything, since you last read them.
That's okay, happens to the best of us. However, you might come across a little less unarmed if you could at least memorize the title of Krug's book.
Thanks for playing anyways.
Your original comments claimed that a mythical "the user" doesn't care about the Reactions, Community, or star buttons, citing "common sense." That's not a UX study. That's you trying to spin your personal opinion as fact. Which is cute, but is not useful criticism in the slightest.
And your assumption is based on what?
Just by looking at the result it's obvious they haven't.
That's not a UX study
Exactly. It's the common sense that you would possess if you had been involved with any similar project of significant size. And I'll proceed to criticize obvious violations of well established common sense without performing studies on other peoples sites, thank you very much.
"the user" doesn't care about the Reactions, Community, or star buttons
Yes, it's still common sense. And quoting what I said does still not make a counter-argument. If the user cares about "Reactions" then where did all those useful pingback-listings go that used to trail every blog post? If he cares about detached community-silos then why can't even Apple make one work? And when was the last time you've seen a useful star-rating on a comment-thread outside an established forum?
That's you trying to spin your personal opinion as fact.
My spin must be pretty good then since you still haven't even tried to dispute any of my claims or references. Oh wait, actually you have once. Turned out not so well...
I especially don't want to give a username and password to all these little poorly-secured blogs.
If you want to "control" "your" users, build your own comments system. And turn off RSS.
How many blogs require you to create a blog to post?
> And turn off RSS.
What's wrong with RSS?
RSS: There's nothing wrong with it. But if you object to Disqus centralising "your" users, you should equally object to eg Google Reader centralising them. It's exactly the same principle. You lose "control", to the benefit of the user.
I want to be a disqus user, not a user of 4000 tiny blogs.
I'm sure I'm not the only site owner who requires real names and cultivates community among his commenters.
Having said that, Disqus looks like an excellent solution for the vast majority of sites, where the quality of the comments and sense of community is very low indeed.
[edit] The videos are pretty good. Their use of "FaceCrack" in the second video is a little cringe-worthy though.
Disqus is the largest Django application and one of the largest pure Python implementations on the web. We love JavaScript and write highly optimized code with performance and compatibility in mind.
"flask, WebScale!, gevent, redis"
Do they let you export the comments people leave on your website so you can easily switch to another commenting platform?
Someone needs to take the idea of "semantic comments" and run with it to visualize community reactions.
Since I don't know whether Disqus comments will actually stick around or not, it seems like a waste of time to participate. The fingerpointing from their support staff didn't fill me with confidence.