The free country where cops can mug you under threat of state backed violence, steal your money, and you won't get any due process, it's just gone. Ok.
Extreme reform is required at this point...
Extreme reform is required at this point...
You'll get no due process in the sense that the "authority" who took your money and deprived you of it's use will suffer no consequences due to "qualified immunity."
The chances are very small due to the way the case is structured but it is entirely possible and it has been known to occur. The main issue is it's a _civil_ case against property and the rules of a civil trial massively over benefit the government and effectively ignore fourth amendment property rights.
thank you for linking your excellent comment
incidentally, the thread six years ago was about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbs_v._Indiana, and you may be pleased to know that tyson timbs got his land rover back
his poem was adopted posthumously 120 years later to boost morale
it has nothing to do with anything and relies on comparison to the most mismanaged countries in the world to justify a perpetuation of its flaws
we’ve gotten lucky with 1st amendment rulings over the last 100 years to perpetuate strong protections there and haven't had a military coup, but thats pretty much it. case in point, by 1910 the supreme court ruled that motion pictures had no 1st amendment protections, not overruling itself until the mid 1950s. anything can happen unless we button up the constitution with finely tailored amendments
The three options are (a) the feds hold the cash until its origin is found to be legit, (b) they hold the person until the cash is verified legit, (c) the suitcase of cash and the person fly away never to be seen again.
I guess the 4th option would be making it much easier and faster for the DEA to obtain a warrant; but this just leads back to a, b, or c.
n.b. I am totally against local cops holding any amount of discovered money during random searches. That's a huge conflict if interest. I'm mainly commenting on the original post.
They generally aren't interested in catching criminals. They're interested in catching someone. The easier the better.
I know several officers, and can safely say they are as varied a group as any other profession. Their day-to-day typically consists of responding to 911 calls, backup to other officers, or traffic duty. I think they generally are interested in catching people breaking the law - particularly the really bad ones. And sure, they would prefer it to be easy, who wouldn't. They get paid like $60k/yr and their day-to-day involves stuff like responding to a domestic violence calls with belligerents wielding various weapons. My biggest challenge most days is finding a parking spot.
Are you asking a real question here?
> My biggest challenge most days is finding a parking spot.
I don't see how that justifies normalised and spread power abuse.
Where did I say anything about justifying power abuse?
It makes sense to anyone who has dealt with the police.
> Where did I say anything about justifying power abuse?
In your previous comment. Where you say job is hard, pay is low, so imply that we should be understanding.
It's astounding to me that every conversation about police pay never brings up their extremely generous pensions, lifetime of healthcare provided at taxpayer expense, ability to conceal-carry a gun nationwide, PBA cards to show other cops you shouldn't get a ticket. I'm sure there are other benefits I'm not including.
i mean we've tried this hundreds of times in different countries; it's not a new idea. we know what the results look like
closing your bank account and withdrawing the contents in cash is not only legal; it's the foundation on which the trust of the banking system rests. a colombian doing that would presumably not want to hang around in a potentially dangerous foreign country any longer than necessary