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I know that Martin Fowler is your God, and that my denigrations upon this divinity will not go unpunished, or that this guy is not Martin Fowler, but what has this guy ever build to convince me that he actually knows what he is talking about? Maybe I am missing that or something else, but here I read that "Today most applications can send hundreds of requests for a single page", like one would hope there to be a sort of role within the software enterprise that would actively try to discourage people from being stupid like that.

Hey, at least when DHH jumps on the third rail of the hypermedia bandwagon I can laugh about the 500ms delay of a dropdown to show a calendar in his mail app, and I respect him for that.

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The author is a dev at Atlassian. If he works on Jira or Confluence, that would explain so much. The two apps are unusable at enterprise level of data. Insane page load and render times up in the 25+ seconds range for complex tickets and pages.

JIRA is the worst combination of slow, blocking load before the view switches and sequential n+1 loads of more data that goes on and on

> Maybe I am missing that or something else, but here I read that "Today most applications can send hundreds of requests for a single page"

I liked the following line better: "The main reason a page may contain so many requests is to improve performance and user experience, specifically to make the application feel faster to the end users."

Those who can't do, teach.

Yep this is why I refuse to read any text books or documentation. If they were any good, the author wouldn't have written it!

I agree that there are some ill conceived resources out there but there are some who walk the walk and talk the talk: - Erich Gamma contributor to eclipse as well as JUnit (Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software) - Kent Beck key contributor to JUnit - Joshua Bloch key author of the collections API in java (Effective Java) - Donald Knuth - James Gosling creator of Java and the Java programing language book

Also written as, "have done it, it's really boring, maybe teaching other people how to do it will be less boring"

This saying is a virus.

And all of us went through education, taught by people who (in your words) couldn't do, so that we now can go ahead and do.

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